RustyAngeL Posted September 30, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted September 30, 2016 On 9/8/2016 at 11:49 AM, other one said: that is really disturbing...... Most of the Episcopal church is just the same way. For years now they have ordained gay pastors so long as they are in a "committed relationship." I find this all just plain sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTRSeeker Posted September 30, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/19/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Yowm said: God knows for sure who are His. Those who are His are to stay close (abide) in His Word, the apostasy is consisting of those groups and individuals who name the name of Christ but are wandering away from the truths of Scripture. But who has the truths of Scriptures. Lutherans and mondern day Calvinist are in complete disagreement on baptism. Heck, there are so many divisions amongst Lutherans that they dont even agree. Same can be said for all denominations. They split amongst themselves so many times as well. So who holds to the truth of scripture? I find it disheartening seeing "Christian" churches embracing gay marriage. Blessing abortion clinics, woman ordination. We all use the same scriptures yet so divided. Edited September 30, 2016 by OTRSeeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted September 30, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted September 30, 2016 On 9/8/2016 at 11:49 AM, other one said: that is really disturbing...... Most of the Episcopal church is just the same way. For years now they have ordained gay pastors so long as they are in a "committed relationship." I find this all just plain sickening. And how do you know which one is true? The ones that follow the word of God to the letter. They do now waver on anything. If they say something and you can't back it up in scripture, don't listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 1, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 1, 2016 The utter difference between truth and religion is eventually exposed. Religion has a draw on humanity. Fill in the blanks about what they actually believe (subject to change) so long as they dress it up in religion. All religions truly are the same. Christ and his followers are not religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 We can either try to bend Scripture to our will, or we can submit to God's will as revealed in Scripture. Many out there seek to remain in control and will thus do the former, which is just a really bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted October 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 3:11 PM, Yowm said: Looking back at the original article and especially the photo on the front... http://www.israelislamandendtimes.com/presbyterian-church-usa-prays-to-allah-calls-muhammad-a-prophet/ I guess the Presbyterian Church USA is not only calling Mohammed a prophet but a FALSE one at that since they aren't kneeling toward Mecca and the woman are not covered. These people are pawns of the Politically Correct movement Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted October 13, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 On 9/8/2016 at 3:41 PM, missmuffet said: Maybe the Presbyterian Church at one point in history was a Christian Church.... but from what I hear of it today I would not attend a Presbyterian Church.... At One Point In History The Presbyterian And The Methodist And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone. Mark 16:15 (NLT) Set The World On Fire For Jesus “I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Matthew 3:11 (ESV) With His Good News "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5:24 (NIV) ~ Presbyterianism in a wide sense is the system of church government by representative assemblies called presbyteries, in opposition to government by bishops (episcopal system), or by congregations (congregationalism). In its strict sense, Presbyterianism is the name given to one of the groups of ecclesiastical bodies that represent the features of Protestantism emphasized by French lawyer John Calvin (1509-1564), whose writings crystallized much of the Reformed thinking that came before him. The most important standards of orthodox Presbyterianism are the Westminster Confession of Faith and Catechisms of 1647. The chief distinctive features set forth in the Westminster declarations of belief are Presbyterian church government, Calvinistic theology, and the absence of prescribed forms of worship. Presbyterians trace their history to the 16th century and the Protestant Reformation. Presbyterians were among the earliest Reformed immigrants to America. They settled up and down the East Coast, and began to push westward into the American wilderness, founding congregations as early as the 1630s. In 1706, seven Presbyterian ministers met in Philadelphia and formed the Presbytery of Philadelphia, the first Presbyterian presbytery in the New World. The clergy assumed the freedom to organize and the right to worship, preach, teach, and administer the sacraments. Growing population and immigration caused the presbytery to organize the Synod of Philadelphia in 1716. The church began to develop its own indigenous leadership and educational, mission, and charitable institutions, as well as to experience its first internal conflicts. Presbyterians were only one of the reformed denominations that dominated American colonial life at the time of the Revolutionary War. Presbyterians participated in the writing of state and national constitutions. Reformed views of God's sovereignty and of human sinfulness moved the new nation toward checks and balances and separation of powers. Independence forced adjustment in church as well as government structures. In 1788, the synod met in Philadelphia to form the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in the United States of America (PCUSA). It adopted a constitution that included a form of government, a directory of worship, and subscription to the Westminster Confession and the Larger and Shorter Catechisms. In 1789, the General Assembly held its first meeting in Philadelphia. In the early years of the 1800s, the church carried on revivals and organized congregations, presbyteries, and synods wherever they went, emphasizing the connectional nature of the church. Presbyterians helped as well to shape voluntary societies to encourage educational, missionary, evangelical, and reforming work. As the church began to realize that these functions were corporate in nature and as the century proceeded, it formed its own boards and agencies to address these needs at home and abroad. Mission to Native Americans, African Americans, and populations all over the world became a hallmark of the church. The nineteenth century was also characterized by disagreement and division over theology, governance, and reform-particularly slavery. The century saw the formation of additional denominations, such as the Cumberland Presbyterian Church and the United Presbyterian Church of North America. When the country could not reconcile the issue of slavery and the federal union, the southern Presbyterians split from the PCUSA, forming the PCCSA in 1861, which became the Presbyterian Church in the United States. The themes of the late nineteenth and all of the twentieth century are many. To be Presbyterian is to be ecumenical, and the church participated in the many organizations such as the Alliance of the Reformed Churches throughout the World holding the Presbyterian System (which became the World Alliance of Reformed Churches in 1970 and then in 2010 joined with the Reformed Ecumenical Council to form the World Communion of Reformed Churches), the Federal Council of Churches and its successor, the National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA, and the Consultation on Church Union succeeded by Churches Uniting in Christ. This era also saw an amazing growth and decline of foreign mission work and controversy and division over worship and the confessions. Women's issues, civil rights and other social justice issues, and service to diverse congregations, including Korean Americans, were also significant in the life of the church. Reorganization and loss of membership characterized this period as well. Presbyterian denominations in the United States have split and parts have reunited several times. Currently the largest group is the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), which has its national offices in Louisville, KY. It was formed in 1983 as a result of reunion between the Presbyterian Church in the U.S. (PCUS), the "southern stream," and the United Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A. (UPCUSA), the "northern stream." The UPCUSA was formed by the merger (1958) of the Presbyterian Church in the United States of America, descending from the Philadelphia presbytery of 1706, and the United Presbyterian Church of North America, which had been constituted (1858) by a union of two older churches. Other Presbyterian churches in North America include: the Presbyterian Church in America, the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, the Cumberland Presbyterian Church, the Cumberland Presbyterian Church in America, the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, and the Presbyterian Church of Canada. As of 2012, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) had approximately 1.8 million members, 10,000 congregations, and 20,000 ordained and active ministers. http://www.history.pcusa.org/history-online/presbyterian-history/history-church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted October 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2016 On 9/13/2016 at 11:20 PM, Yowm said: England was once a bastion of God's Word and missionary endeavors, now it's competing to be the Mosque capital of Europe. Yes, it can happen here and will barring a move of repentance and a God granted revival. I have lost hope for America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted October 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Yowm said: Well God's greater than the MSM or America and perhaps He will grant repentance. God's will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted October 14, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted October 14, 2016 28 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: I have lost hope for America. I haven't. As long as there is breath in our country, there is hope. You still need to pray for America and her leaders, prayer is the only thing that will change this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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