markdohle Posted September 11, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 641 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 32 minutes ago, RustyAngeL said: Yes miss Revelation 22:18-20 Take away or add too from this Book, not a very pretty picture for those who do either. The problem with the book of revelation everyone has their own take on it, it is a tower of babel. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong who disagrees with them ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdohle Posted September 11, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 641 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Davida said: Certainly not purgatory. Of course it could. God's fire is purifying, it buns away all dross until only that which is true is left. Judgment does not always mean condemnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdohle Posted September 11, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 641 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 1 hour ago, RustyAngeL said: I need scripture. To tell people they can go to a place to be (healed) of their sins is just plain wrong. It is dangerous to speak that. People then think that they can get things straightened out after they die. You will be responsible for what you say to these people. You will have to make an account for your false teaching, just as my friend will be accountable for telling people hell is only for a short period of time. Blessings, RustyAngeL You are missing the point my friend, that is ok, like I said I am not trying to convince anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, markdohle said: God purifying fire is not condemnation but healing and mercy. Gods wrath on those who are not believers mark is a conscious torment in hell forever and ever. Never ending. God does not send people to hell they send themselves to hell because of their unbelief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdohle Posted September 11, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 641 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: We will just have to disagree on that. I believe it has to do with the judgment of the 'nations' as to how they treated the believing Jews during the tribulation. Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations:... Mt 25:40 Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, But (fortunately) we seem to be straying far away from purgatory. LOL yeah we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted September 11, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Share Posted September 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: We will just have to disagree on that. I believe it has to do with the judgment of the 'nations' as to how they treated the believing Jews during the tribulation. Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations:... Mt 25:40 Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, But (fortunately) we seem to be straying far away from purgatory. I wonder how this would be applied our present commander does nothing for Israel but many in this nation want him to. who stands before God on this issue from a nation like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdohle Posted September 11, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 641 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 Just now, missmuffet said: Gods wrath on those who are not believers mark is a conscious torment in hell forever and ever. Never ending. God does not send people to hell they send themselves to hell because of their unbelief. I agree and God will also seek all his children out. Just as Jesus did with St. Paul and Jesus is doing today appearing to many Muslims. Before a gift can be rejected it has to be presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdohle Posted September 11, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 641 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Davida said: What you are doing Mark is speaking non- Biblical teachings - these are false teachings made up and propagated by the RCC. What you quote of Hebrews 12:14 is not what my Bible says. You are demonstrating the eternal dangers of the RCC by this thread. RCC teaches spiritual nonsense. Thank you for sharing my friend, we simply do not agree ;-). Like I said, I was not trying convince, but to share another way of looking at this reality, if I actually did change someones's mind, I would need a drink and I don't drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted September 12, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, markdohle said: You are missing the point my friend, that is ok, like I said I am not trying to convince anyone. It is all about whether we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior of our lives. If we accept His finished work on the Cross. It is about grace, something we don't deserve but have anyway if we live for Him. There is nothing we can do to get to Heaven except believe that Jesus died, rose again for us, and make Him the Lord of our life, live for Him and share His TRUTH according to the Bible and not our own Again there is no half way point. You either enter eternal life with our without Christ. Jesus said you are either for me or against me. Blessings, RustyAngeL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted September 12, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: Gods wrath on those who are not believers mark is a conscious torment in hell forever and ever. Never ending. God does not send people to hell they send themselves to hell because of their unbelief. What missmuffet said is right on point. God does not send people to hell it is their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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