Running Gator Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 Just now, shiloh357 said: The emotion is affection. Thats' what you feel. Love, even in the Bible is only an action. It is only expressed in action. Perhaps it is not your place to tell us what we feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 Love is not just a verb... http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/love-is-not-a-verb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted October 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, RustyAngeL said: I disagree. I loved my husband for 25 years. It most certainly was a feeling and an emotion an action. Blessings, RustyAngeL So you understand fully the emotion expressed by me or any spouse even though you have never been married. Can you tell me how you can relate to that? To relate an experience you have never had? RustyAngeL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Some people just don't understand Love at it's most basic. Pray for people like that... God can and does impart Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 21 minutes ago, RustyAngeL said: So you understand fully the emotion expressed by me or any spouse even though you have never been married. Can you tell me how you can relate to that? To relate an experience you have never had? RustyAngeL That's like saying I actually have to take cocaine to fully grasp the problems and consequences of taking cocaine. Love isn't something that is only experienced in marriage. It's transferable to other contexts, other relationships. But affection is different based on what particular relationship you're talking about. It is our western mindset that views love as an emotion. It's in our music, our movies and entertainment. But they are wrong. Often "love" is confused with affection or infatuation, or even lust. The whole, "it feels so right, it can't be wrong" mentality in our modern culture has perverted how we look at love. Emotions/feelings are based in circumstances. You feel happy when the conditions are right. The difference between happiness and joy is like that between affection and love. Love is how you express the way you feel. I gave an analogy to demonstrate that very fact. You can have joy without necessarily being happy. You can love without really feeling anything for someone else. "Love your enemies" doesn't have anything to do with how you feel. They are your enemies, but you are to act in love toward them, despite how you feel about them in your mind. How about forgiveness? You can love someone by forgiving them even though in your mind you want to do the opposite. It becomes an act of your will. I can show all kinds of instances where you can love someone you despise in your mind and heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 26 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: Perhaps it is not your place to tell us what we feel? I am not telling you what to feel. But affection is a feeling. Nothing wrong with that. But it is not love and love is not a feeling. That's just our western mindset that has a very self-centered approach to love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,817 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 Quote That's like saying I actually have to take cocaine to fully grasp the problems and consequences of taking cocaine. I hate to say it but it is not the same thing at all......certainly no one has to take drugs to know the problems & consequences ,,,,,still,you would have no clue what the person that has taken it experienced & felt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 minute ago, kwikphilly said: I hate to say it but it is not the same thing at all......certainly no one has to take drugs to know the problems & consequences ,,,,,still,you would have no clue what the person that has taken it experienced & felt Since the original remark was about experience, the analogy is spot on. I would have to experience cocaine before I can speak out against using it, which is completely absurd. The point is that there are objective things about relationships that we can know without having experienced those exact relationships because there is a lot that is transferable from one relationship to another. Things like trust, communication, loyalty, are common to any relationship. What's different is the level and kind of affection that is expressed in different relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,817 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 Quote I would have to experience cocaine before I can speak out against using it, which is completely absurd. Please Shiloh,don't twist my words,I do not do that to you I said nothing about you (or anyone else) speaking out against against using cocaine,,,,,it has nothing todo with the price of tea in China......What I am saying is YOU cannot relate to using drugs ,you can not personally relate to the experience of an altered state of mind from the effects of using that drug,,,,therefore,I'll say it again ,you have no clue .....Just as you cannot know what a person feels or experiences or expresses as a spouse,or a father or a mother You cannot know the love a parent has for their child,you say you know the Love in our hearts from our Father,can you not understand there are different "loves" I love my husband differently than I love my son & yet another love for my grandchildren,,,,,,,,,,Our Fathers Love is Agape Love,do you love with Agape Love? Can you love me as our Father does? Or do you just have an affection for me or none at all....... Well Jesus tells us that we can love others as we love ourselves,,,,,I love myself because I love Jesus & He Abides in me,,,,,,I love you as well.....are you going to sit here & tell me I don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 Take a small little topic such as feelings. Look at the feelings and emotions this topic has exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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