Daniel's 70 weeks

[SDAinFLA]

The way I am interpreting this is that all 69 weeks were successive, but there is an unknown gap in time between the 69th week and the 70 week. Is this correct?

If this is then how do you account for the time period between the 69th and 70th week?

Also in reading Daniel 9, I don't see how its believed that the nation of Israel will accept Jesus Christ.

Thanks

[rollinTHUNDER]

Greetings RT,

Jerusalem is not even close to being desolate now. It is a thriving city. There is even a new Sanhedrin, and they are also discussing the rebuilding of the temple.

You are not looking through the eyes of the "Spirit". Israel is currently dead, dead, dead to God, except for a remnant of TRUE Israel, less than 2%.

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If there are 2% in Israel who believe, they are not Israel. Israel is currently and temporarily blinded. Two thirds of Israel will perish, while the 1/3 remnant will be saved, but Israel and the church are two different entities.

[rollinTHUNDER]

The way I am interpreting this is that all 69 weeks were successive, but there is an unknown gap in time between the 69th week and the 70 week. Is this correct?

If this is then how do you account for the time period between the 69th and 70th week?

Also in reading Daniel 9, I don't see how its believed that the nation of Israel will accept Jesus Christ.

Thanks

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You got it SDAinFLA,

This is correct. The unknown gap of time is known as the times of the Gentiles, also known as the age of grace or the church age. Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled, after which Israel will be saved also. The first will be last and the last will be first.

[wordsower]

You are not looking through the eyes of the "Spirit". Israel is currently dead, dead, dead to God, except for a remnant of TRUE Israel, less than 2%. The "physical" temple shall never again be rebuilt. That is only a wishful dream.

Dad,

What bible do you read?

Try Isaiah. The desert will blossom as a rose---happening now. The dead sea will be healed--happening now.

Israel is being restored physically in expectation of the return of Christ, to rule and reign, with the government on His shoulders over His people--the Jews. You and I will be ruling and reigning with Him.

Wish I had time to post scripture, I'm at work right now.

Thunder--

You are such a great teacher, you explain things so plainly. I think you should write a book!

[SDAinFLA]

The unknown gap of time is known as the times of the Gentiles, also known as the age of grace or the church age.

Are there any scriptures that refers to this gap?

Also, please give a couple of scriptures that shows that Israel will be saved.

Thanks

[Trinity]

Daniel 9:24

"Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy

Is Israel as a Nation saved? This is talking about Israels salvation and when they will finally going to except salvation, when this Prophcey was made God knew that there was going to be a falling away, thats why its about Israel, not the Gentiles.

So what you are relying on is that Daniel 9:24 got cancelled because the Jews didn't except Jesus at first. Prophecy is always fulfilled never cancelled! This will still happen, How many Prophecies do you know of that God cancelled? NONE! They all must be fulfilled. To say that the Gospel just moved on from the Jews cancels out Verse 24, because that says Israel will be saved forever.

Now may i ask you a question? Is Israel as a nation saved? No... Than there must be a gap...

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Wordsower,

What bible do you read?

I mainly use the KJV, but I also read the NIV and the Complete Jewish Bible.

Try Isaiah.  The desert will blossom as a rose---happening now.  The dead sea will be healed--happening now. 

Israel is being restored physically in expectation of the return of Christ, to rule and reign, with the government on His shoulders over His people--the Jews.  You and I will be ruling and reigning with Him.

Try these verses:

Deuteronomy 4:26 I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it; ye shall not prolong your days upon it, but shall utterly be destroyed.

Deuteronomy 4:27 And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.

Deuteronomy 4:28 And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.

Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.

Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

Deuteronomy 4:31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

Nehemiah 1:8 Remember, I beseech thee, the word that thou commandedst thy servant Moses, saying, If ye transgress, I will scatter you abroad among the nations:

Nehemiah 1:9 But if ye turn unto me, and keep my commandments, and do them; though there were of you cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven, yet will I gather them from thence, and will bring them unto the place that I have chosen to set my name there.

Ezekiel 6:8 Yet will I leave a remnant, that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations, when ye shall be scattered through the countries.

Ezekiel 6:9 And they that escape of you shall remember me among the nations whither they shall be carried captives, because I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me, and with their eyes, which go a whoring after their idols: and they shall lothe themselves for the evils which they have committed in all their abominations.

Ezekiel 6:10 And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that I would do this evil unto them.

Ezekiel 6:11 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Smite with thine hand, and stamp with thy foot, and say, Alas for all the evil abominations of the house of Israel! for they shall fall by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence.

Ezekiel 6:12 He that is far off shall die of the pestilence; and he that is near shall fall by the sword; and he that remaineth and is besieged shall die by the famine: thus will I accomplish my fury upon them.

Ezekiel 6:13 Then shall ye know that I am the LORD, when their slain men shall be among their idols round about their altars, upon every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and under every green tree, and under every thick oak, the place where they did offer sweet savour to all their idols.

Ezekiel 6:14 So will I stretch out my hand upon them, and make the land desolate, yea, more desolate than the wilderness toward Diblath, in all their habitations: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Please make note that Israel will be scattered among the gentiles until the day they repent, THEN God Himself will restore them, NOT MAN, as it was in 1947.

In that day, they will prosper, they will no longer go to war, their swords will be beaten into plowshares. Yet we do not see that in Israel today. They are to remain a thorn in all the nations sides until the day Messiah returns with all His saints (Zech. 14).

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[rollinTHUNDER]

Are there any scriptures that refers to this gap?

Also, please give a couple of scriptures that shows that Israel will be saved.

Thanks

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Hi SDAinFLA;

This is a deep mystery we are dealing with. Here's one that shows an undetermined gap of time, but later, if you like, I can show you how scripture shows that the times of the Gentiles (church age) would last over 2000 years. Then scripture proving that Israel will still be saved follows.

Luke 21:24 - "They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled."

The Remnant of Israel

Romans 11:1-32 - "I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah

[SDAinFLA]

So what you are relying on is that Daniel 9:24 got cancelled because the Jews didn't except Jesus at first. Prophecy is always fulfilled never cancelled! This will still happen, How many Prophecies do you know of that God cancelled? NONE! They all must be fulfilled. To say that the Gospel just moved on from the Jews cancels out Verse 24, because that says Israel will be saved forever.

I see what you're saying, but what about Jonah?

"And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown." Jonah 3:4

and then"...God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not." Jonah 3:10

I believe it's a possiblity. I don't really think the gospel moved on, but I just think that the Gentiles are now Israel in God's eyes.

[Trinity]

but I just think that the Gentiles are now Israel in God's eyes.

SDAinFLA that is not biblical look at these two verses

Romans 11:1-2

I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah