RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, RealPresence said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, RealPresence said: *DUPLICATE POST* *DUPLICATE POST* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: We use incarnation and Christianity and Trinity because those concepts are at least demonstrated in the Bible, if not mentioned explicitly. Judaism is a post biblical word that applies to a post biblical religion. Calling the religion of ancient Israel "Judaism" isn't accurate. Jesus fulfilled the law and the prophets in the Scriptures, not Judaism. Jesus was the Word made flesh; he was not Judaism made flesh. This is a complete fabrication on your part. Neither Incarnation, Trinity nor Christianity are mention explicitly ANYWHERE in Scripture. Jesus is the word made flesh and the fulfillment of the Law and the prophets, which is Judaism (Matt. 5:17). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 57 minutes ago, Ezra said: Please note two things: 1. WHO WAS TIMOTHY'S SPIRITUAL FATHER AND CLOSE ASSOCIATE? (Heb 13:22-25). And I beseech you, brethren, suffer the word of exhortation: for I have written a letter unto you in few words. Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you. Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you. Grace be with you all. Amen. (Written to the Hebrews from Italy, by Timothy.) 2. WHY DID THE KJV TRANSLATORS PUT THIS IN THE ORIGINAL 1611 HEADING (AS SHOWN IN THE TEXTUS RECEPTUS)? "The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Hebrews" Probably for the SAME reason they added "For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever" to the Lord's Prayer in Matt. 6 - because they didn't know any better. That line is NOT from Scripture but was added in. It is from the 1st century document, "The Didache" (Teachings of the Twelve Apostles). anyway, scholarly consensus states that Paul was not the author of Hebrews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted December 2, 2016 34 minutes ago, RealPresence said: Secondly - not ONE of you has given me any Scripture that refutes the fact that Judaism began with Moses, so I would appreciate your not bearing false witness. I truly do not know when Judaism started, yet if I say Judaism started with Adam, are you obligated to show me scripture stating I am wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Yowm said: Speaking of fabrications and imaginations. Meaning . . . ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 Just now, hmbld said: I truly do not know when Judaism started, yet if I say Judaism started with Adam, are you obligated to show me scripture stating I am wrong? Judaism didn't start until the Law was given to Moses - period. None of the Fathers beforehand were considered Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 18 minutes ago, RealPresence said: This is a complete fabrication on your part. Neither Incarnation, Trinity nor Christianity are mention explicitly ANYWHERE in Scripture. yeah, that's what I said. They are demonstrated in the Bible. Those words do not appear, but the concepts are present in the text. Judaism is not. Quote Jesus is the word made flesh and the fulfillment of the Law and the prophets, which is Judaism (Matt. 5:17). Nope, the law and prophets are not Judaism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Yowm said: Since when do you go against Chalcedon, separating the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They are the ONE God. To reject one is to reject all. Yes, I know what the Trinity is. It was defined by the Catholic Church. Apparently, YOU don't know. Answer me this: Is Jesus God? Is the Father God? Is the Holy Spirit God?OR - are they ONLY God when spoken of as a Trinity and not as distinct Persons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 42 minutes ago, RealPresence said: Secondly - not ONE of you has given me any Scripture that refutes the fact that Judaism began with Moses, so I would appreciate your not bearing false witness. Judaism isn't mentioned in the Bible. The Bible never refers to the religion of ancient Israel has Judaism. So you are the one with the burden of proof, not us. You need to provide the Scripture from the OT that calls that religion Judaism. That would end the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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