other one Posted January 3, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,117 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: If one delves into the depths of Nazism, you'll find a solid connection to the occult. It wasn't just Hitler, but all those around him too. It was a movement of pure evil with no redeeming qualities. Most of that didn't originate with Hitler though..... it was the high levels of the party like Himmler and Goebbels that were into the occult and followers of Blavatsky and her group..... you are correct though they are pure evil. They guided Hitler into those beliefs. If you read Constance Cumbey's books on the new age religion that has moved into the UN, you will find that it is the same old occult teachings that took the Nazi's down the road of total destruction. People should not take the UN lightly for the spiritual people there will tell you very proudly that they are creating the structure for the Antichrist... and it's kind of spooky to read thier books and white papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 3, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: If one delves into the depths of Nazism, you'll find a solid connection to the occult. It wasn't just Hitler, but all those around him too. It was a movement of pure evil with no redeeming qualities. Yes, I have seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted January 3, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, other one said: Most of that didn't originate with Hitler though..... it was the high levels of the party like Himmler and Goebbels that were into the occult and followers of Blavatsky and her group..... you are correct though they are pure evil. They guided Hitler into those beliefs. If you read Constance Cumbey's books on the new age religion that has moved into the UN, you will find that it is the same old occult teachings that took the Nazi's down the road of total destruction. People should not take the UN lightly for the spiritual people there will tell you very proudly that they are creating the structure for the Antichrist... and it's kind of spooky to read thier books and white papers. I have read Constance Cumbey's Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, Dave Hunt's books on the occult, and a book that may be out of print now titled The Twisted Cross: The Occultic Religion of Hitler and the New Age Nazism of the Third Reich by Joseph J. Carr. Carr's book may be the best, but Cumbey's book started me researching the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 3, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,117 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2017 it's been some time ago but I am familiar with all of those. I wish people here would read them all, it would make it easier to discuss some things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted January 3, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, other one said: it's been some time ago but I am familiar with all of those. I wish people here would read them all, it would make it easier to discuss some things. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted January 5, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Yowm said: The deeper problem was when Germany as a whole was wooed away from it's biblical moorings through it's liberal higher criticism of the late 19th century. Remember, Hitler was voted in...and his ideas would never have been swallowed en masse if the populace had retained it's biblical roots. In any case satan is behind both the occult and the Higher Criticism Movement. Hitler's rise could just as well be the traced to the punitive effects the World War I victors placed on Germany. Hyperinflation was the result. You needed a wheelbarrow full of German marks to purchase a 20 million mark postage stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted January 5, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 5, 2017 The Devil has been trying to destroy God's people since Abraham was promised a great nation would come from him. God promised Abraham that out of him would come a great nation. God is not going to let that nation be destroyed. In Jeremiah 31:35-37 God said something very important about the nation of Israel. In this passage God tells us that one of three things must happen if the nation of Israel is to be destroyed. If none of these three things happens, then the nation of Israel will never be destroyed and will never stop being a nation. 1) The day-night cycle must be stopped (Jeremiah 31:35-36). God is saying, "If you want the nation of Israel to stop being a nation then you must find a way to stop the day from coming after the night and stop the night from coming after the day." 2) The heavens must be measured (Jeremiah 31:37). God is saying, "If you want the nation of Israel to stop being a nation then you must be able to tell Me how many stars there are in My Universe." Even if men build bigger and better telescopes, do you think they will ever be able to see all the stars in the universe? ______ 3) The foundations of the earth must be searched out (Jeremiah 31:37). God is saying, "If you want the nation of Israel to stop being a nation then you must be able to dig a hole to the center of the earth." Will man ever be able to do this? In the days of Esther, there was a proud and wicked man named Haman. Haman hated the Jewish people and wanted to destroy them. He had a plan and his plan seemed to be working out. He was able to get the King to pass a law (an unalterable decree) which said that on a certain day all of the Jews (men, women and children) in the whole kingdom would be destroyed. You can read this law in Esther 3:13. V. 13, And the letters were sent by posts into all the king's provinces, to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish, all Jews, both young and old, little children and women, in one day, even upon the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, which is the month Adar, and to take the spoil of them for a prey. The Jewish people have not had an easy road to travel on. For example, it is estimated that during the World War II, Hitler, the German leader, had about 6 million Jews put to death. This man tried to destroy the Jewish people, but today Hitler is dead and the Jewish nation is still alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 18 hours ago, Yowm said: The deeper problem was when Germany as a whole was wooed away from it's biblical moorings through it's liberal higher criticism of the late 19th century. Remember, Hitler was voted in...and his ideas would never have been swallowed en masse if the populace had retained it's biblical roots. In any case satan is behind both the occult and the Higher Criticism Movement. The root of all evil is Satan. He can use good intentions to deliver bad results in any environment. Consider the policies of the American Democratic Party. But that's a subject for another thread. If you doubt the value of historic criticism (aka Higher Criticism), you cast doubt on the worth of the Protestant Reformation. But that's also a subject for another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, Yowm said: Sorry but the Reformation had NOTHING to do with biblical higher criticism. The Reformation sought to return to the bible as the basis of faith (rather than Church tradition and sophistic philosophies). Higher criticism was led by skeptics seeking 'proofs' to explain why Scripture had errors. Definition of higher criticism : study of biblical writings to determine their literary history and the purpose and meaning of the authors — In other words, C O N T E X T. The Bible should be understood in the time the Holy Spirit inspired authors wrote it. That's why there are Commentaries, Expositions, Bible Handbooks, Concordances, Manners and Customs of the Bible, parallel New Testaments, etc. It's all done to fully understand what God is saying to His people. How can you be a Christian and be against that? [That's a question, not meant to imply you are not a Spirit-Filled Christian which I believe you are.] This subject is best discussed elsewhere. [2nd request] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: That definition was further honed by the German School of Higher Criticism (theological liberals) giving us attacks against the bible and leaving the German people and eventually Europe in shambles regarding their faith. Or are you trying to Defend that School? This is not off topic as it has much to do with Germany's fall to Naziism. I never once mentioned any school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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