Guest Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Just now, Churchmouse said: There is a quote that I love about this from the movie BILLY JACK: "When the law makers become the law breakers, then there is no law, only a fight for survival". I think we are on the brink of that with all these politicians playing to the protestors and egging them on. Good quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.68 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 6, 2017 48 minutes ago, MorningGlory said: I know that cases need to go through the lower courts first but I am not happy with this whole 'judge shopping' thing. No matter who is doing it I just don't like it. I do not disagree, that is for sure. But I am not sure there is a fix that does not make things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Out of the Shadows said: I do not disagree, that is for sure. But I am not sure there is a fix that does not make things worse. Nor am I. I need to read the Constitution again when I have the time. Amending that document is a long and arduous process and I'm not even sure what needs to be amended, if anything. Wow, for once I have to admit I don't have the answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyBubbleFlowers Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 244 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 89 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/31/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 6, 2017 21 hours ago, MorningGlory said: This is a good article on why one federal judge issuing an order that affects the whole country is a really bad idea. And, as is pointed out here, it is becoming increasingly common. The past two Presidents were restrained by individual judges as well. I can't figure out how one judge can issue an order outside his or her district. None of the EOs of GWB, Obama or Trump are unconstitutional. I believe it's time to limit the power of federal judges to make or break laws. https://www.lawfareblog.com/case-against-national-injunctions-no-matter-who-president Federal Judges cannot make a law. They can only interpret what is law. It is a separation of powers matter that saves the country from judges that would like to rule from the bench. When a country is no longer able to say who can, and who cannot , come in & out, especially for reasons of safety &.security - big trouble! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.68 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, KittyBubbleFlowers said: Federal Judges cannot make a law. They can only interpret what is law. It is a separation of powers matter that saves the country from judges that would like to rule from the bench. When a country is no longer able to say who can, and who cannot , come in & out, especially for reasons of safety &.security - big trouble! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 4, 2017 I belive her use of the expression " to make or break laws. " meant to uphold or strike down, not to actually make them as Congress does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted February 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, KittyBubbleFlowers said: Federal Judges cannot make a law. They can only interpret what is law. It is a separation of powers matter that saves the country from judges that would like to rule from the bench. When a country is no longer able to say who can, and who cannot , come in & out, especially for reasons of safety &.security - big trouble! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 4, 2017 Those in each separate branch don't seem to see the separation of powers as they were intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyBubbleFlowers Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 244 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 89 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/31/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, hmbld said: Those in each separate branch don't seem to see the separation of powers as they were intended. It would appear so in matters at least of the Judicial. The supreme court of late is very offensive in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 minute ago, KittyBubbleFlowers said: It would appear so in matters at least of the Judicial. The supreme court of late is very offensive in that regard. Examples of the Supreme Court being offensive recently? I'm not saying you're wrong, but would like examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyBubbleFlowers Posted February 7, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 244 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 89 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/31/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Legalizing gay marriage by legal fiat commanding all 50 states under the auspices of the 14th amendment. There is No Constitutional Right to Marriage ... Of Any Kind Tuesday 28 October 2014 Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. Adding: ACLJ Radio broadcast Edited February 7, 2017 by KittyBubbleFlowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 minute ago, KittyBubbleFlowers said: Legalizing gay marriage by legal fiat commanding all 50 states under the auspices of the 14th amendment. There is No Constitutional Right to Marriage ... Of Any Kind Tuesday 28 October 2014 Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. That's a good example. Note: it is hard for me to read your posts because of the font size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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