simplejeff Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Abdicate said: 16 minutes ago, simplejeff said: What did /does Jesus say ? (Directly about TORAH) ...... Ya lost me sir... Exodus 20:16 (KJV) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Simple. Don't read into what you quoted what is not there. See somewhere the difference between "lie" and "bear false witness against", btw.... more clear? (If there's something else you meant by "lost me" repost ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, simplejeff said: No, that's not what He Says/ Said, nor what Yahweh Says/ Said in His Word. it is what Yahweh says Jeff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 54 minutes ago, Abdicate said: Fine, you can't have a conversation without dragging in "salvation" then I'm done. If nine commandments are sage advice, how can the fourth not also apply as to the right thing to do. You people can't have a logical conversation without going into a circular argument. Have a nice day. Realize some old posters have long term problems that cannot be disclosed online. For several this came out years ago, sort of accidentally, and hasn't been mentioned again as far as known. It does make "logical" conversation impossible , but that just has to be accepted ..... (nothing was ever accomplished to resolve this, and it has always been difficult on all the forums, not just this one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 hour ago, other one said: it is what Yahweh says Jeff..... Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 7 hours ago, simplejeff said: Not even close. I've been explaining that for at least 14 years here..... not worth the effort to go through it again and again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Abdicate said: Fine, you can't have a conversation without dragging in "salvation" then I'm done. If nine commandments are sage advice, how can the fourth not also apply as to the right thing to do. You people can't have a logical conversation without going into a circular argument. Have a nice day. So tell me what is going to happen to a person who does not observe the 4th commandment Sabbath regularly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 Do you start your car on the Sabbath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Online Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, other one said: Do you start your car on the Sabbath? If you read what the early church fathers said (and I mean the original non-doctored writings) then it is apparent that they warned new Christians to not Judaize the Sabbath. But to use it like Yeshua did. Sabbath was made for man! Just rest and unplug as much as possible from the noises of the world. So don't worry about not starting the car or getting a burger. Yeshua rubbed corn to eat (work) and did good works on the Sabbath (work). Just keep it as a glory unto the Lord God Who rested on the seventh day from the creation of the universe as we know it. Just chill and don't do the work and normal stuff like you do the other days of the week (but please change baby's diaper). I think some LIKE to pretend you have to do all the law on the Sabbath as an excuse for not observing it. Truth is, you ARE free to choose. It is between you and your God. The Lord knoweth the heart and innermost thoughts... Edited November 11, 2017 by Justin Adams add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 hours ago, other one said: I've been explaining that for at least 14 years here..... not worth the effort to go through it again and again.... PRAISE GOD ! (you are right, not worth the effort to give your explanation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Justin Adams said: If you read what the early church fathers said (and I mean the original non-doctored writings) then it is apparent that they warned new Christians to not Judaize the Sabbath. But to use it like Yeshua did. Sabbath was made for man! Just rest and unplug as much as possible from the noises of the world. So don't worry about not starting the car or getting a burger. Yeshua rubbed corn to eat (work) and did good works on the Sabbath (work). Just keep it as a glory unto the Lord God Who rested on the seventh day from the creation of the universe as we know it. Just chill and don't do the work and normal stuff like you do the other days of the week (but please change baby's diaper). I think some LIKE to pretend you have to do all the law on the Sabbath as an excuse for not observing it. Truth is, you ARE free to choose. It is between you and your God. The Lord knoweth the heart and innermost thoughts... taking your view, it would not matter which day of the week you chose. I have no problem with resting one day of the week, but when you Call it the Sabbath, things go with that word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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