Imamom Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 279 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1965 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I don't think it is a question of being overzealous on certain causes, and apathetic on the general calling of all believers., but rather the fact that it is easier to get involved in prayer and petition for people when you can put a face to a name , and you know something of their personal circumstances. All you need to do is look. I live in the U.S. and have seen plenty of homeless, hungry people. I have seen their face and their name is homeless and hungry, one of Gods children. Most people have a tendency to look the other way. I agree that the U.S. should help in the world and I think it should help its own people to. I have little to offer these people when I see them..a sandwich, bag of chips, piece of fruit. Then I see their smile and I thank God often through the tears that have welled up in my eye because I could not do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwinkjr Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,430 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/18/1981 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I don't think it is a question of being overzealous on certain causes, and apathetic on the general calling of all believers., but rather the fact that it is easier to get involved in prayer and petition for people when you can put a face to a name , and you know something of their personal circumstances. All you need to do is look. I live in the U.S. and have seen plenty of homeless, hungry people. I have seen their face and their name is homeless and hungry, one of Gods children. Most people have a tendency to look the other way. I agree that the U.S. should help in the world and I think it should help its own people to. I have little to offer these people when I see them..a sandwich, bag of chips, piece of fruit. Then I see their smile and I thank God often through the tears that have welled up in my eye because I could not do more. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We all have something greater to offer these people, and that is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There lives on this earth just as yours and mine will amount to nothing compared to eternity. God Bless, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 429 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2005 I don't think it is a question of being overzealous on certain causes, and apathetic on the general calling of all believers., but rather the fact that it is easier to get involved in prayer and petition for people when you can put a face to a name , and you know something of their personal circumstances. All you need to do is look. I live in the U.S. and have seen plenty of homeless, hungry people. I have seen their face and their name is homeless and hungry, one of Gods children. Most people have a tendency to look the other way. I agree that the U.S. should help in the world and I think it should help its own people to. I have little to offer these people when I see them..a sandwich, bag of chips, piece of fruit. Then I see their smile and I thank God often through the tears that have welled up in my eye because I could not do more. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We all have something greater to offer these people, and that is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There lives on this earth just as yours and mine will amount to nothing compared to eternity. God Bless, Dave <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well," but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it? So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead. James 2:16-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I think what SJ is getting at is that we don't do enough for the poor and needy in our own back yard. Sure, we give money away . . . but how many people would rather have "our hands and our feet" rather than our green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwinkjr Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,430 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/18/1981 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I think what SJ is getting at is that we don't do enough for the poor and needy in our own back yard. Sure, we give money away . . . but how many people would rather have "our hands and our feet" rather than our green? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And i agree with SJ whole heartedly, but also see the Shiavo case as being extremely urgent. If we allow the current rulings to stand we are setting a very bad precedent, this case WILL determine the future of our country in many ways. God Bless, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I understand that point as well! Just having seen some of SJ's other posts, I know the issue of Christians being actual hands and feet in this world is very stron on his heart, so I can see why he would look at the situation this way. I do not believe he is against the fight to save Terri's life. I interpret his emphasis being on wanting us to move on to other areas as well. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imamom Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 279 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1965 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I understand that point as well! Just having seen some of SJ's other posts, I know the issue of Christians being actual hands and feet in this world is very stron on his heart, so I can see why he would look at the situation this way. I do not believe he is against the fight to save Terri's life. I interpret his emphasis being on wanting us to move on to other areas as well. Make sense? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwinkjr Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,430 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/18/1981 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I understand that point as well! Just having seen some of SJ's other posts, I know the issue of Christians being actual hands and feet in this world is very stron on his heart, so I can see why he would look at the situation this way. I do not believe he is against the fight to save Terri's life. I interpret his emphasis being on wanting us to move on to other areas as well. Make sense? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed!!!! and AMEN!!!!!!!! Artist: Casting Crowns Album: Casting Crowns Song: If We Are The Body It's crowded in worship today As she slips in trying to fade into the faces The girls teasing laughter is carrying farther than they know Farther than they know Chorus: But if we are the body Why aren't His arms reaching? Why aren't His hands healing? Why aren't His words teaching? And if we are the body Why aren't His feet going? Why is His love not showing them there is a way? There is a way A traveler is far away from home He sheds his coat and quietly sinks into the back row The weight of their judgmental glances Tells him that his chances are better out on the road Jesus paid much too high a price For us to pick and choose who should come And we are the body of Christ Jesus is the way God Bless, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2005 I understand that point as well! Just having seen some of SJ's other posts, I know the issue of Christians being actual hands and feet in this world is very stron on his heart, so I can see why he would look at the situation this way. I do not believe he is against the fight to save Terri's life. I interpret his emphasis being on wanting us to move on to other areas as well. Make sense? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. This isn't an either/or situation..it's both! Should Terri be fought for? Absolutely! But so should others who cannot fight for themselves. That's his point. Of course, ppl around here are eager to argue, so they'd rather pick apart what he said and find a point of conflict, rather than see his intent and bless him in his challenge for believers to rise up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigailwc Posted March 23, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 499 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/08/1964 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Most of us do not like to see anybody suffering, especially innocent people. Terry is just one more example of that suffering. Many try to alleviate that suffering either by giving money, becoming missionaries, offering free medical help, praying, simply voicing disapproval....... Many are fighting in the shadow away from the publicity. There is no irony. This world belongs to Satan and we can see its result. God is coming back to put an end to the lunacy of this world. I don't know how those who do not believe in God and in His graceful gift of salvation can cope in this world of darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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