The Book of Enoch

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What does the bible say?

Sometime after their creation, and most certainly after the sixth day when everything was declared “very good” (Genesis 1:31), Satan rebelled and was cast out of heaven. “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!” (Isaiah 14:12). Jesus said, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven” (Luke 10:18), and in the book of the Revelation Satan is seen as “a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth” (Revelation 9:1).

We are also told that one third of an “innumerable company of angels” (Hebrews 12:22) chose to rebel with him. John saw this great wonder in heaven, “…an enormous red dragon…His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth…the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him” (Revelation 12:3–9).

Since Satan is referred to as a star which fell or was cast down to earth, and Revelation 12:4 says a third of the stars were cast out with him, then the conclusion is that the stars in Revelation 12 refer to fallen angels, fully one third of the heavenly host. If the one-third number is in fact accurate, what assurance that is! Two thirds of the angels are still on God's side, and for followers of Christ, they are on our side as well.

[Jude1:3]

Enoch2021 posted this in another thread and it has some great information:

 

 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Matthew 24:37)

(Daniel 2:43-44) "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY SHALL MINGLE THEMSELVES WITH THE SEED OF MEN: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.  {44} And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."

Whoever is "Mingling Themselves" are NOT the 'SEED OF MEN'. (Genesis 6 again)

So the Ten Kings of the End Times are "HYBRIDS"; Echoing (Matthew 24:37 above).

 

 

*These go right along with these scriptures :

Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that The Sons Of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
• Genesis 6:1-2

Now there was a day when The Sons Of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.
• Job 1:6
 
Again there was a day when The Sons Of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
• Job 2:1
 
When the morning stars sang together,
 And All The Sons Of God shouted for joy?
• Job 38:7

 

 

And it goes right along with 1 Enoch 6:1-3

And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto  them beautiful and comely daughters. And The Angels, The Children Of The Heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men  and beget us children.......

 

 

[Guest shiloh357]

1 hour ago, Jude1:3 said:

(Daniel 2:43-44) "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY SHALL MINGLE THEMSELVES WITH THE SEED OF MEN: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.  {44} And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."

Whoever is "Mingling Themselves" are NOT the 'SEED OF MEN'. (Genesis 6 again)

 

That is some pretty bad exegesis.   That is talking about the Roman Empire.  "Seed of men" is a reference the nations of the world or humanity in general. The Roman empire was multi-cultural and multi-ethnic.  That is what the prophecy foresees.  It is prophesying the historic split of the Roman Empire into east and west.  That is why the iron and clay cleave from each other.   It is not talking about hybrids.  the latter part of the verse jumps to the Kingdom that God will establish and will destroy the other kingdoms.  

[Jude1:3]

7 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

That is some pretty bad exegesis.   That is talking about the Roman Empire.  "Seed of men" is a reference the nations of the world or humanity in general. The Roman empire was multi-cultural and multi-ethnic.  That is what the prophecy foresees.  It is prophesying the historic split of the Roman Empire into east and west.  That is why the iron and clay cleave from each other.   It is not talking about hybrids.  the latter part of the verse jumps to the Kingdom that God will establish and will destroy the other kingdoms.  

 

So you are saying that the "They" in Daniel 2:43 is "The Roman Empire" ?

That doesn't make sense, because "The Roman Empire" is Already "The Seed Of Men".

 

The "They" in Daniel 2:43 are "Fallen Angels"

[Guest shiloh357]

7 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said:

 

So you are saying that the "They" in Daniel 2:43 is "The Roman Empire" ?

That doesn't make sense, because "The Roman Empire" is Already "The Seed Of Men".

 

The "They" in Daniel 2:43 are "Fallen Angels"

No, the vision is about four kingdoms, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.  Same as in chapter 7.   The iron and clay is the Roman empire.  The Roman Empire was all over the world.  It was a multi-cultural empire that mingled with the seed of man, inter-married in the nations they conquered.

"They" is not fallen angels.  That doesn't even fit what Daniel said the vision was about. Read the prophecy.  The king has a dream about a large statue of a man with a head of gold, arms and chest of silver legs of brass and feet of iron and clay.  It is a vision four kingdoms.

The fourth Kingdom is made up of iron and clay and the clay split from the iron.  Roman split into two parts, east and west.   Daniel interprets the dream for us.   And he says nothing about angels or anything like that.   You are trying  force something on to the text that is not there.

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
(Dan 2:40-43)

 

[Jude1:3]

2 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

No, the vision is about four kingdoms, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.  Same as in chapter 7.   The iron and clay is the Roman empire.  The Roman Empire was all over the world.  It was a multi-cultural empire that mingled with the seed of man, inter-married in the nations they conquered.

"They" is not fallen angels. 

 

That interpretation of the "They" in Daniel 2:43 doesn't make sense.  Read it again :

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY SHALL MINGLE THEMSELVES WITH THE SEED OF MEN.      • Daniel 2:43

 

The "They" and "Themselves" is a reference to "Fallen Angels" "Mingling" with the "Seed Of Men".

[Guest shiloh357]

2 hours ago, Jude1:3 said:

 

That interpretation of the "They" in Daniel 2:43 doesn't make sense.  Read it again :

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY SHALL MINGLE THEMSELVES WITH THE SEED OF MEN.      • Daniel 2:43

 

The "They" and "Themselves" is a reference to "Fallen Angels" "Mingling" with the "Seed Of Men".

But you're divorcing that one sentence from the rest of the context. The context as a I quoted is about a kingdom not fallen angels.   Sorry, but the Bible isn't saying anything about fallen angels.   "Seed of men"  is a manner of speaking a figurative expression.  There is nothing about fallen angels if you read the entire chapter.

[other one]

6 hours ago, Sojourner414 said:

Those aren't "ET's".

God didn't make that book available to us...otherwise it would have been in the Scriptures.

And with that, I am done debating this. It's going to have to be up to the Lord to straighten people out on this when they meet Him in person.

-Sojo414 out.

It was actually available and common knowledge during the time Jesus was here.     SOOoooo, excuse me for totally disagreeing with you, and I'll expect the Lord to enlighten you at some time later.

[Jude1:3]

7 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

.   "Seed of men"  is a manner of speaking a figurative expression. 

 

No, it's not a figure of expression. It's fallen angels.

[Guest shiloh357]

5 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said:

 

No, it's not a figure of expression. It's fallen angels.

Show in the text where it says, "fallen angels."