US says ‘both sides will be forced to compromise’ for Mideast peace deal

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(Worthy News) - A State Department official said Tuesday that Israelis and Palestinians will “be forced to compromise” in order to achieve US President Donald Trump’s goal of brokering peace between the two sides.

In her first press briefing as the department’s spokesperson, Heather Nauert wouldn’t address a question about UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres’s statement lamenting 50 years of Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, but pivoted to say that both Trump and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson were committed to forging an agreement despite the inevitable challenges that will arise.

“Middle East peace is something that’s very important to this administration,” Nauert told reporters. “The president and the secretary have both said they recognize that it will not be easy, that both sides will be forced to compromise.” [ Source ]

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[Guest shiloh357]

Israel has already made many, many concessions and the Palestinians have made none.   Israel has compromised over and over again, and it has only resulted in more dead Jews on Israel's streets. 

Israel cannot be forced to compromise.   Israel is a sovereign nation, not a vassal nation of the US.  

[Steve_S]

2 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Israel has already made many, many concessions and the Palestinians have made none.   Israel has compromised over and over again, and it has only resulted in more dead Jews on Israel's streets. 

Israel cannot be forced to compromise.   Israel is a sovereign nation, not a vassal nation of the US.  

Yeah, I really hope they don't take this route. It would be a great disappointment.

[PlanetChee]

12 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Israel has already made many, many concessions and the Palestinians have made none.   Israel has compromised over and over again, and it has only resulted in more dead Jews on Israel's streets. 

Israel cannot be forced to compromise.   Israel is a sovereign nation, not a vassal nation of the US.  

And yet peace is yet to be achieved. Maybe someone good at negotiating can assist to bring peace. Wouldn't that be a blessing in the long run? Peace!  

[OneLight]

2 minutes ago, PlanetChee said:

And yet peace is yet to be achieved. Maybe someone good at negotiating can assist to bring peace. Wouldn't that be a blessing in the long run? Peace!  

That depends ... Daniel 9:27

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.

[Guest shiloh357]

8 minutes ago, PlanetChee said:

And yet peace is yet to be achieved. Maybe someone good at negotiating can assist to bring peace. Wouldn't that be a blessing in the long run? Peace!  

What would bring peace is not Israel giving up more.   What would bring peace is the Palestinians deciding to cease and desist all terrorism and calls for Israel's  destruction and start making concessions to Israel.    Israel has never been the problem when it comes to obstacles to peace. Israel has always operated in good faith and repaid with bloodshed.   Following that model again really isn't going to work.    The Palestinians refuse to live up to their end.   Negotiations only work when both parties operate in good faith.   The best deal in the world is useless if the Palestinians continue down their current path. 

[Guest shiloh357]

11 minutes ago, PlanetChee said:

And yet peace is yet to be achieved. Maybe someone good at negotiating can assist to bring peace. Wouldn't that be a blessing in the long run? Peace!  

Here is what is going to be needed:

Memo From Israel to Palestine

by Gerard Van der Leun

Re: Final Notice Before the Termination of Our Relationship (To be filed in your "Permanent Conduct Record")

Date: To Be Determined
To: The Palestinian People
From: The People of Israel

Re: Final Notice Before the Termination of Our Relationship
(To be filed in your "Permanent Conduct Record")

As you know from our repeated meetings over many years, we have repeatedly done our best to accommodate your incessant demands regarding employment, compensation, housing allowances, health benefits, and other items of mutual interest as we have endeavored to work together on "Project Peace in the Middle East."

We have, with your agreement and assurances of a better performance, given you time, money, professional help, medication and a more than reasonable offer of land for you to live in while you work out "your issues." In the course of these meetings we feel we have been more than forthcoming in our attendance to your "special needs."

From time to time we have accepted your written word that, given adequate resources, you would be working to resolve "your issues." We note, for the record, that at no time has your word proven to be worth the paper that we both so ceremoniously signed. Indeed, it has been our bitter experience that the working out of "your issues" most often involves explosive episodes on the streets of our country.

It has come to our attention, through a continuing rain of the body parts of our citizens onto our streets, that "your issues" do not seem to be resolvable through considered and mutually agreeable negotiations. The outcome of these 'negotiations' in the recent past seems to us to be one of we give and you take and then you kill us. We have decided that this is not a program that we wish to continue.

Indeed, it would seem to be the case that your "central issue," although internally generated within your institutions and religion, seems to be the eradication of the state of Israel and the extermination of the Jewish people here and abroad. We mention 'abroad' since it would seem to us that your goal is to first create a base that includes the entire state of Israel, kill the Jews within those borders, and then use that land as a base to kill Jews throughout the world. Perhaps we are wrong in this, but we find that a people is best known by the company they keep.

We have had a similar experience with this "central issue" as a "final solution" towards the middle of the last century. We discovered, after millions of us had been slaughtered, that mollification, negotiation and submission was not a successful policy. Indeed, we created the state of Israel around the central concept of 'Never again.'

Please note that after no little reflection and soul searching, we have decided to return Israel to this concept as the foundation of our internal and international policy from this moment forward.

Because we are a reasonable people we have decided to issue this memorandum in order to give you one chance to reform yourselves and become fit to be included in the human race. Should you choose not to pursue this path, we will at least have a record that you were notified in a fair and timely manner before termination.

"Never Again" was our first principle and is now our final position. This memo serves to note the end of all negotiations with the Palestinian People.

Your problems and your issues as of this date are yours and yours alone. You must solve whatever bipolar instability and manic-depressive disappointment and psychotic tendencies towards homicidal violence plague your society among yourselves. You will not, from this date forward, use the People of Israel as targets for your own internal demons.

Your "issues" will no longer be allowed to become our "episodes."

Should you choose to act out, even once, we, the People of Israel, hereby notify you that we are prepared to and shall, without any further notice, over-react towards all Palestinian people and interests within our sphere of influence.

Bear in mind that we have not in recent memory over-reacted against your unremitting efforts to exterminate us. We have been patient and measured in our responses, cognizant of a watching world and not wanting to seem, even for a moment, to be as savage and violent as those who have been waging a coward's war against us for decades. We have, at all points, been as honorable in war as possible ? even when the wars in which we were engaged were not fought by honorable adversaries.

As you know, our military power, both conventional and nuclear, is immense. We won't detail here the helicopters, missiles, tanks, aircraft and troops that we can mobilize and move to the east, as far as the desert of Iraq, if we wish.

Mere mention of these items has not gotten your attention.

The restrained use of these items has not gotten your attention.

Because we are weary of having our streets used as your martyr's mausoleums, because we are extremely angered when we must place the shredded bodies of children into body bags, because we would feel a lot better getting up in the morning if we knew we'd be coming home at night, we have decided we must, regretfully, engage in methods that will, finally, either get your attention or leave you without the capacity for attention in the first place.

This, then, is your single choice:

If you know of those among you who seek to kill even one of us by any means, you would be well advised to render them incapable of killing anyone immediately. Should you wish to ever have a bit of land to call your own and you are aware of an organization of any kind that seeks to take our land outright, you would be well advised to render them powerless forthwith.

Should you fail to do so and, as we stated above, even one more of our citizens should be killed by the cowardly methods you have perfected over the years, we will conclude that your entire society values martyrdom more than life and peace, and we will endeavor, to the limit of our ability, to supply you with same.

We will begin our program of over-reaction without delay and without reference to our allies or world opinion. We will deal with that in the days that follow the completion of our strategic exercises in what you quaintly term "the occupied territories." Please notify those whom you consider your allies that, should they chance to intervene, we have sufficient resources to deal with them expeditiously.

Should individual Palestinians feel that these terms are unrealistic, we would advise them to seek an exit visa and to remove themselves as far from 'the occupied territories' as is feasible, and as quickly as possible. When we over-react to the east we will not be checking ID cards.

Please reflect upon these conditions as seriously as we have in drafting them.

Remember, in the final analysis, we are a people with no little experience in stunning victories.

Sincerely,

The People of Israel

CC: USA, EU, UN and others whom it may concern

 

[PlanetChee]

Just now, shiloh357 said:

What would bring peace is not Israel giving up more.   What would bring peace is the Palestinians deciding to cease and desist all terrorism and calls for Israel's  destruction and start making concessions to Israel.    Israel has never been the problem when it comes to obstacles to peace. Israel has always operated in good faith and repaid with bloodshed.   Following that model again really isn't going to work.    The Palestinians refuse to live up to their end.   Negotiations only work when both parties operate in good faith.   The best deal in the world is useless if the Palestinians continue down their current path. 

No, I don't mean for Israel to surrender more. And yes, I'd think it a given that that is how negotiations start and progress. With this President I think Palestinians will be more open to altering their typical journey down that current path. As they have taken for years in these type negotiations. 

 

[Guest shiloh357]

1 hour ago, PlanetChee said:

No, I don't mean for Israel to surrender more. And yes, I'd think it a given that that is how negotiations start and progress. With this President I think Palestinians will be more open to altering their typical journey down that current path. As they have taken for years in these type negotiations. 

 

No, history shows that they will violate the agreement before the ink is dry. 

[Steve_S]

16 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

No, history shows that they will violate the agreement before the ink is dry. 

There should be no agreement for ink to dry on. Israel has a territory like every sovereign nation. They should have a right to operate within it how they see fit.