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15 hours ago, Abdicate said:

Matthew 28:1 (YLT)
And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,

That is a good reason why I never use the YLT. that is completely wrong. They rested on the Sabbath. 

New International Version
After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

New Living Translation
Early on Sunday morning, as the new day was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went out to visit the tomb.

English Standard Version
Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb.

Berean Study Bible
After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb.

Berean Literal Bible
And after the Sabbaths, it being dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.

New American Standard Bible 
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave.

King James Bible
In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
After the Sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to view the tomb.

International Standard Version
After the Sabbaths, around dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to take a look at the burial site.

NET Bible
Now after the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

New Heart English Bible
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But on the eve of the Sabbath, when the first of the week was dawning, Maryam Magdalitha and the other Maryam came to see the tomb.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
After the day of worship, as the sun rose Sunday morning, Mary from Magdala and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

New American Standard 1977 
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave.

 

Text Analysis
Strong's Transliteration Greek English Morphology
3796 [e] Opse Ὀψὲ after Prep
1161 [e] de δὲ moreover Conj
4521 [e] sabbatōn σαββάτων, Sabbath, N-GNP
3588 [e] τῇ it Art-DFS
2020 [e] epiphōskousē ἐπιφωσκούσῃ being dawn V-PPA-DFS
1519 [e] eis εἰς toward Prep
1520 [e] mian μίαν [the] first [day] Adj-AFS
4521 [e] sabbatōn σαββάτων, of [the] week, N-GNP
2064 [e] ēlthen ἦλθεν came V-AIA-3S
3137 [e] Mariam Μαριὰμ Mary N-NFS
3588 [e] - Art-NFS
3094 [e] Magdalēnē Μαγδαληνὴ Magdalene N-NFS
2532 [e] kai καὶ and Conj
3588 [e] the Art-NFS
243 [e] allē ἄλλη other Adj-NFS
3137 [e] Maria Μαρία Mary, N-NFS
2334 [e] theōrēsai θεωρῆσαι to see V-ANA
3588 [e] ton τὸν the Art-AMS
5028 [e] taphon τάφον. tomb. N-AMS
Greek Texts

 

If you are a follower of EG White and/or Doug Batchelor, or some other 7th day follower you have been deceived by liars and false prophets.

 

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15 hours ago, simplejeff said:

They might believe that, or used to, but it is likely not the mark of the beast,  it is only the day of the beast. (as they* admit in their 50 mile underground library, and millions of publications)

 

*they= those who started the fallacy and other old wives tails .... (sic) (more polite than demon's tales)

Oh that is what I have heard them say, that its the mark of the beast; you even see it in SDA videos on youtube. (50 mile underground library, really? What's that about?)

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16 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

There is literally a ton of evidence in papal writings and edicts to prove the Romans did this!

Maybe but I dont usually read papal writings so I dont know anything about that. 

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3 hours ago, Abdicate said:

Matthew 28:1 (YLT)
And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,

You need to find a way better bible because this one appears to be horrible

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2 minutes ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

Maybe but I dont usually read papal writings so I dont know anything about that. 

Yes after the Sabbath, when Yeshua arose, they traveled a fair way to the tomb. They could not legally go on the Sabbath. He was already collecting the sheaves to WAVE. That is why they mistook him for the gardener. It was not a flower garden but a small pasture. He said not to touch Him right then. He had to go to the Father, then HE soon returned after the First Fruit sheaves were consolidated.

Funny how some say were are to ignore the Law. Yeshusa did not, even after he was raised, He still performed His High Priest duty of the wave offering.

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Just now, Justin Adams said:

They could not legally go on the Sabbath. He was already collecting the sheaves to WAVE.

But then look it this way too (be careful here for there is nothing in the Scripture specifically saying that he was collecting the sheaves to wave but just in case.....)

Jesus would not break His own law. He would still have to have risen after the Sabbath to have time to harvest and gather the sheave together

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3 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

He said not to touch Him right then.

I forgot to add He only said that because He didnt want anyone holding him back from doing what He wanted most, to hurry up and get to the Father

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14 minutes ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

That is a good reason why I never use the YLT. that is completely wrong. They rested on the Sabbath. 

Douey Rheims says similar.

The Roman stuff that you admitted you do not read about: well. a friendly suggestion is to read all of the church history, the fathers, the contemporary scholars and Josephus. Read them all and the edicts and admitted changes to the so called 'canon' by the roman Church and those under its thumb. You will be surprised at the wealth of disinformation you will find that modern 'enlightened' Christians consider 'gospel'.

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2 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Douey Rheims says similar.

The Roman stuff that you admitted you do not read about: well. a friendly suggestion is to read all of the church history, the fathers, the contemporary scholars and Josephus. Read them all and the edicts and admitted changes to the so called 'canon' by the roman Church and those under its thumb. You will be surprised at the wealth of disinformation you will find that modern 'enlightened' Christians consider 'gospel'.

Well I do read some of that stuff sometimes but just not very often; one cannot afford to allow themselves to become too distracted from the bible. I am not roman Catholic, btw and do not approve of their pagan doctrines.

Question for you; You use the name Yeshua; are you a Messianic Jew?

 

I do actually have the works of josephus at home, all of them. Just havent had a chance to read much of them. Josephus himself was at best an Ebionite "Christian" which believed in Jesus but didnt fully accept the New Testament. I believe they rejected the teachings of Paul primarily

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11 minutes ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

I forgot to add He only said that because He didnt want anyone holding him back from doing what He wanted most, to hurry up and get to the Father

He gathered a symbolic handful. That is all they do. They do not wave a 2-ton round bale!

He gave the reason why they should not touch him. You are being a little vague here. He had to go to The Father for symbolic and real reasons, not just because he was in a hurry. If he had been in a hurry, he would have gone already before He met the ladies.

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