Guest shiloh357 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Bethel Church in Redding, California is known as the epicenter of the faith-healing movement in America. Its leader, Bill Johnson, wrote in Charisma Mag that all believers have the same exact power and authority as Jesus to heal illness. Johnson promises that with enough faith, anyone can heal. The worship services of Bethel are full of testimonies of people being healed of various invisible ailments. Unsubstantiated claims of more impressive healings – even raising the dead – are made at Bethel. Bethel Church has “healing rooms” where you can schedule an appointment to receive physical healing. In fact, Bethel Church hosts the Randy Clark School of Healing and Impartation, which teaches faith healers how to lengthen legs and do psychosomatic parlor tricks. Supposedly, the power of God manifests itself so strongly at Bethel that they see “glory clouds” and angel feathers falling from the rafters. Johnson, in the Charisma Mag article linked above, said, “We ought not leave our ministry base until we are clothed with dunamis—power from on high.” Sadly, some of Bill Johnson’s church members have had to leave Bethel’s ministry base without that “dunamis power” (which they interpret as the power to do healings, signs and wonders). They have had to leave and go to UC Davis Medical Center in order to save the life of their child. Bill Johnson and all of his claims of miraculous power, Randy Clark and all of his leg-lengthening chicanery, Bethel children’s minister, Seth Dahl and all of his angelic visions, have been utterly and totally powerless to heal the child of Bethel’s “Music CEO,” Joel Taylor. According to CBN, Bethel Music CEO, Joel Taylor, is pleading with the public for prayer for his child to be healed. The boy’s name is Jaxon, a handsome two-year-old who is suffering from intestinal leakage, vomiting blood, lowered brain activity, respiratory illness and possibly damaged kidneys, and he is in immense pain (these descriptions are cited by CBN as coming from Taylor’s social media). Bethel members went to the hospital, according to the social media post above, to “create an atmosphere of worship” in order to create “an atmosphere for God’s presence and creating an atmosphere for God’s presence is creating an atmosphere for miracles.” As the poor child was receiving medical attention at a hospital in Intensive Care, he saw improvements in his condition, which the cultists credited to their miracle-creating atmosphere. Of course, healing miracles performed in the Scripture by Christ and the Apostles were (A) immediate and instant (B) complete and total and (C) done without accompanying medical care, which could just as easily be credited for improvements. Sadly, the Bethel cultists say “we just need God to finish the miracle.” In the Bible, there were no impartial or unfinished miracles. Faux-miracles may be fun to talk about and fake healings may get people enthused, but time after time Bethel Church in Redding proves itself absolutely and completely unable to heal people of seriously debilitating illnesses in any kind of way that cannot be contributed to psychosomaticism or conventional medical care. Last year, cancer-stricken Nabeel Quereshi sought healing at Bethel Church in Redding, California, and the cultists prophesied over him (as he reported at the time) that he would be physically healed. We have also brought to you screenshots of Bethel members telling Quereshi on his Facebook page that God told them he would be healed of cancer and would not die of it. Nabeel Quereshi, after seeking healing from the epicenter of faith healing, died with a tremendous (and commendable) surplus of faith. It did not work a miracle. And yet, Bill Johnson writes on the Bethel website that if someone is not healed it is because of the “deficiency on their end,” rather than the will of God. The theology of Bethel Redding is that the atonement of Christ – because of a Scripture-twisting misinterpretation of Isaiah 53 – provides for the healing (according to Johnson) of all people suffering from all illnesses. One would suppose that goes for the child of Bethel’s Music CEO. The question is why isn’t Bill Johnson, Randy Clark and Seth Dahl in that hospital rooming healing Jaxon at this very moment? In the video below, Bill Johnson says that “God is just looking for a prayer he can agree that he can cooperate with and fulfill his purpose…” In the video, Johnson claims that all sickness should be able to be healed by faith, and lacking that healing, the problem comes from the individual. Healing, according to Johnson, is an expression of God’s righteousness. Physician, heal thyself. Bill Johnson, heal this boy. If you can’t command and call down the power of God, who on Earth can? In the meantime, there’s a very, very sick boy in the hospital who does need to be healed. We should pray for his healing and God can heal him. His parents’ friends set up a Go Fund Me account to help with their expenses. If you would like to help support the family financially or support the expenses related to this child’s medical needs, you can do so by going here. Currently, the GoFundMe page is still active, although they have exceeded their goal of $150k dollars and have raised 165k thus far. Nevertheless, we certainly do not discourage you from giving. Also, please pray for those taken in by the cult of Bethel Church in Redding, and pray that they might be delivered of such wicked, helpless, impotent deception. http://pulpitandpen.org/2018/01/01/bethel-church-cant-heal-desperately-sick-child-of-their-music-ceo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 1, 2018 Who in the last century has healed without fanfare, more cases of cancer than any faith center like that ? (and with no side effects, and low cost) Via testing, and follow-up testing, addressing what is actually wrong, and doing what is needed to correct it, in the body .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, simplejeff said: Who in the last century has healed without fanfare, more cases of cancer than any faith center like that ? (and with no side effects, and low cost) Via testing, and follow-up testing, addressing what is actually wrong, and doing what is needed to correct it, in the body .... THEY in the gall of bitterness. I have heard their excuses on why some don't get healed. and I have watched how many of them operate. SEND THAT MONEY and we a gonna PRAY FOR YA BABY DAUGHTER etc. THINKING the gift of the holy ghost can be purchased with money. DID peter or john tell the poor beggar HEY , put that money n our tithe bags.........and BAM YOU GONNA GET YOUR HEALING......................these men are men of belial exploiting the unstable and unlearned for MONEY. THIS IS UTTER BLASPHEMEY what they do. and the doctrines they teach are putrid with the stench of steamed dog vomit coupled with the pee from a donkey , topped with cat drop deluxe. I mean their doctrine reeks . BUT JESUS , HIS SAYINGS are as honey to the taste , as life and meat for the soul and happy is the one who keeps his sayings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Yowm said: Never trust a faith healer with spectacles, a finger splint AND GRAYING HAIR LOL. and never believe a one of them that even IMPY MONEY for healing . THEY phony. and sneaky. they know HOW to make people THINK they should GIVE MONEY without even having to say GIVE IT TO ME. they use physcological approaches which basically makes the person THINK the more they GIVE the better the healing or chance of being healed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, simplejeff said: Who in the last century has healed without fanfare, more cases of cancer than any faith center like that ? (and with no side effects, and low cost) Via testing, and follow-up testing, addressing what is actually wrong, and doing what is needed to correct it, in the body .... Who in the last century has not focused on self exaltation and cares in life and the gifts too. BUT WHY do they focus on the gifts SO they can appear to be SOMEONE. THE CHURCH has forgotten, THAT OUR HEART should hunger , seek out and feast of , TRUTH and RIGHTEOUSNESS. SO yeah they don't care about nor love truth, they love to have the preminence . As for gifts. THE gifts and operations of the body aint for SELF ITS to build the churchup , so as they come to that same mind and faith . That they no longer can be tossed to and fro by false doctrines. YEAH, most have no idea what the churches have lost , heck they don't even know THEY LOST . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Yowm said: Aww c'mon duff, where's your faith? You is showin you is weak in faith man doubtin. How ya ever gonna get healed? LOL Exactly . they try and put the blame on the person. IF benny hinn and scores of these had truly the gift of healing ............HOW come they don't go over to Africa and help cure ebola HOW come they didn't walk into the texas hospital and heal them. And even IF they did have the gift, which THEY DONT , but lets say they did, GUESS they only heal IF MONEY or GAIN is involved. EITHER way it shows THEY KNOW NOT GOD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Yowm said: Aww c'mon duff, where's your faith? You is showin you is weak in faith man doubtin. How ya ever gonna get healed? LOL Yeah, I have heard them say that to men or women who gave them money, then GOT no healing. THEN the leader says its a lack of faith on their part. And the same ones will GIVE MORE in hopes of a healing . The whole time , the leaders addresses SURE DO GROW. and the people just sit under them still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Davida said: "DO as I SAY, alright?!!? ..... NOT as I do. " And the whole time what happens. it something the blind are not aware . THE leaders who keep getting ALL GODS MONEY..........................SINCE WHEN DID GOD NEED BIGGER HOUSES AND A LARGE LUXURIOUS LIFESTYLE in other words.............the leaders boarders just keep getting enlarged . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devarim Posted January 1, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 41 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 1, 2018 The Man of Lawlessness…10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, 12in order that judgment will come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 2, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 958 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,672 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,088 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said: Yeah, I have heard them say that to men or women who gave them money, then GOT no healing. THEN the leader says its a lack of faith on their part. And the same ones will GIVE MORE in hopes of a healing . The whole time , the leaders addresses SURE DO GROW. and the people just sit under them still. Nattering naybobs of negativety, Batman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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