Space Force - coming to a Recruiting Station soon?

[Neighbor]

4 hours ago, Yowm said:

 Did you notice they were already holding her arms walking down the stairs, as if 'just in case' like they already knew there is a problem?

I noticed how inept the one escort on her right was, to have let her fall, not once but twice.

That's when I kinda felt for the poor lady, how great the fall.

[Neighbor]

8 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Yeah, I agree, space exploration is a waste of time and my taxpayer dollar. It's faulty to begin with, the premise is based on evolution and the goal is to prove there is no God. Everything to fit their model of the 'Big Bang' and our great, great grandparents walked out of a concoction of primordial stew dragging our knuckles. 

Hi, I had to give that one an  oy vey. The space program has fed me personally, and my family, and has financially benefitted  us since 1959 in one fashion or another. That started for us just a bit before  the public announcement of a grand plan and vision to reach the moon.

So many individuals have benefitted from the inventions that came from that marvelously ambitious program, the trail of prosperity, social and medical benefit, is so far beyond the idea of just lifting  into space that  it is near untrackable if one has not paid attention.

One example, just one small example; the need for one off parts made of titanium brought about the furthering of chemical milling and chem milled parts for rocketry and spacecraft. That led to development of chemically milled titanium mesh for surgical screening  that was first used for reconstruction of jaws lost to trauma and  also disease ( See as reference  Dr. Ben Carson - Binder twins that was made possible by that very mesh). That early mesh led to parts for rebuilding eye orbits, skulls, links to hold bones together, and allow for regenerating of new bone. It led to a whole new way of helping  serverely injured individuals at the six great trauma centers of this land USA. It also led to titanimum screws and the development of and use of argon atmosphere welding, and titanium tools. Plus the further understanding  of the side effects of disimilar metals when used in surgery. 

Today the maskants used in the early USA space program to make one off parts is used  in the manufacture of near every commercial aircraft built in the world. It also led to the glues that hold Barbi's hair in place, and the padding of automobile steering wheels onto it's metal subframe, why even the toy the  water weenie was made possible by the space industry. It led to the formulas used  in specialty chalks shipped around the world, and is likely the basis for the formula of that line of tapes chalks and coatings advertised endlessly on tv today ( I recognized it when I bought a tube).

Oh so many small businesses started out of the desire to reach the moon, and some grew into very large companies, many were bought out by even larger companies.  Why even competitive racing cars got dipped in vats used first for the chemical milling of space craft segments to lighten them.

It wasn't just the early  powdered drink Tang that came from the race to space.

Ask any Vietnam combatant that had his or her face blown up and lost a jaw in the process whether they like the titanium jaw that was invented specifically for their need, and came about by the people that developed chem milling  for titanium, if space development that led to their new jaw and restored function has been a waste of money.

I feel quite honored just to have been brought up around it,  and to have known a very few of the small businessmen whose companies rose up out of that time  and  of the need for space  products. They were remarkable, and fun people, that just enjoyed working endless hours for the cause.  They prospered and employed many people. They were a part of "The Greatest Generation".

A waste of time and money? I don't see it that way, sure don't. I see it as perhaps the single most interesting and beneficial event in my lifetime! Born out of the dream expressed by a US president, and carried through onto today by oh so many creative  and yes brilliant people with the idea of bringing really beneficial ideas and products to fruition for the benefit of many.

 They, the small group that worked on that mesh, for so many years improving it, using it for cancer victims, restoring the equality of life for so many are for the most part gone now.

But after a long period of no new interest and almost no funding for space development there is a great privately funded effort that is a real marvel launching again. It is exciting to have lived just long enough to be exposed to that  too. I wonder what the newest of inventions will be and how they will benefit many more of us to come.

The idea that it is all just a waste, part of the folly of mankind? ??? No! It is in part even  a material expression of the beauty of man's willingness to invest a whole lifetime for the benefit of total strangers that have suffered so greatly from awful trauma and diseases.

 I first saw the development of welding under argon atmosphere back in the 1970's, saw the first tanks used, saw the first products made. Those products are still holding people together  today.

There is good stuff that has come from the bold  dedicated inventors that have come from the space industry, lots and lots of good stuff. Much of it used by  most of us without every knowing  of the impetus that led to the existance of that "stuff".  It is all around us, in our workplaces, in our homes, and even our clothing and  our transportation in our driveways.

Ps- Titanium mesh was what Dr. Ben Carson used in the surgery that made him famous, the surgery on the Binder twins. That mesh came directly from the call by President Kennedy saying "We will put a man on the moon within ten years". There is a direct trail from that statement to the invention of that mesh .

And, what I have been privileged to have seen is just a very small sample of the much larger good that has come about by people with vision  and determination that are not afraid of risk and hard hard work. Though talented inventors engineers chemists and doctors, they all enjoyed the hard work of their hands, and took satisfaction in knowing of so many that  have better and longer lives for it. 

[frienduff thaylorde]

13 hours ago, Davida said:

Not a teddy Yowm.    

perhaps Teddy woke up a bit grizzly that day.    

[Guest shiloh357]

15 minutes ago, Davida said:

I agree it doesn't look good for her escorts either, and why they had her up there is beyond me. They said those were ancient steps in India, so they are polished stone & would not be flat. I've been on polished stone in Israel and they can be slippery. It looked like Huma Abdin behind her and she did not look one bit concerned that Hillary was slipping. Hillary was probably not wearing rubber soled shoes. It shows a lacking stamina, so physically out of shape, with no practicality & common sense.

I still continue to think she has health issues.  She had problems during the election.   People go up and down those steps all of the time.  How many people fall on them?  If she is the only person in that group having a hard time negotiating those stairs, that tells me there is a problem with her health.

[JTC]

18 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Where did all this knowledge and technology come from? If a person charts out the linear progression of our extremely sudden advancement, it's not logical and defies all explanation that we obtained it by natural progression and human wisdom. Like everything else in our universe since the fall of Adam, our DNA and intellect is degrading over time, not improving, that's a law and not a suggestion.

The only logical and reasonable explanation is, we had help from somewhere. Y'all think I'm a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic or just a half a bubble off?

I agree Dennis, considering where our knowledge and technology was in the 60's and 70's it should have taken at least 100 yrs to reach what we are now. So assuming someone is helping us the question then becomes, who, but more importantly is why? I'd like to believe God is giving us this knowledge for our good but everything I know from the Bible says that's probably not true. Our technology is like a double edged sword. Many good things came from it such as improved prosthetic limbs. I cringe to think of the old wooden peg legs and don't forget the fictional Captain Hook who lost his hand. The Internet is another gift of mixed blessings. 50 yrs ago I would have never known anyone outside NYS but today I have communicated with people all over the world. I like this. But the Internet has also made the porn industry possible including the rise in human trafficking and more people getting hooked on porn than would have been possible in the 70's. In spite of all this I think God wants us to try to control these things. Technology changes but God's rules don't. The people of God always had it hard and it still is.     

[Dennis1209]

On 3/14/2018 at 3:04 AM, Neighbor said:

Hi, I had to give that one an  oy vey. The space program has fed me personally, and my family, and has financially benefitted  us since 1959 in one fashion or another. That started for us just a bit before  the public announcement of a grand plan and vision to reach the moon.

So many individuals have benefitted from the inventions that came from that marvelously ambitious program, the trail of prosperity, social and medical benefit, is so far beyond the idea of just lifting  into space that  it is near untrackable if one has not paid attention.

One example, just one small example; the need for one off parts made of titanium brought about the furthering of chemical milling and chem milled parts for rocketry and spacecraft. That led to development of chemically milled titanium mesh for surgical screening  that was first used for reconstruction of jaws lost to trauma and  also disease ( See as reference  Dr. Ben Carson - Binder twins that was made possible by that very mesh). That early mesh led to parts for rebuilding eye orbits, skulls, links to hold bones together, and allow for regenerating of new bone. It led to a whole new way of helping  serverely injured individuals at the six great trauma centers of this land USA. It also led to titanimum screws and the development of and use of argon atmosphere welding, and titanium tools. Plus the further understanding  of the side effects of disimilar metals when used in surgery. 

Today the maskants used in the early USA space program to make one off parts is used  in the manufacture of near every commercial aircraft built in the world. It also led to the glues that hold Barbi's hair in place, and the padding of automobile steering wheels onto it's metal subframe, why even the toy the  water weenie was made possible by the space industry. It led to the formulas used  in specialty chalks shipped around the world, and is likely the basis for the formula of that line of tapes chalks and coatings advertised endlessly on tv today ( I recognized it when I bought a tube).

Oh so many small businesses started out of the desire to reach the moon, and some grew into very large companies, many were bought out by even larger companies.  Why even competitive racing cars got dipped in vats used first for the chemical milling of space craft segments to lighten them.

It wasn't just the early  powdered drink Tang that came from the race to space.

Ask any Vietnam combatant that had his or her face blown up and lost a jaw in the process whether they like the titanium jaw that was invented specifically for their need, and came about by the people that developed chem milling  for titanium, if space development that led to their new jaw and restored function has been a waste of money.

I feel quite honored just to have been brought up around it,  and to have known a very few of the small businessmen whose companies rose up out of that time  and  of the need for space  products. They were remarkable, and fun people, that just enjoyed working endless hours for the cause.  They prospered and employed many people. They were a part of "The Greatest Generation".

A waste of time and money? I don't see it that way, sure don't. I see it as perhaps the single most interesting and beneficial event in my lifetime! Born out of the dream expressed by a US president, and carried through onto today by oh so many creative  and yes brilliant people with the idea of bringing really beneficial ideas and products to fruition for the benefit of many.

 They, the small group that worked on that mesh, for so many years improving it, using it for cancer victims, restoring the equality of life for so many are for the most part gone now.

But after a long period of no new interest and almost no funding for space development there is a great privately funded effort that is a real marvel launching again. It is exciting to have lived just long enough to be exposed to that  too. I wonder what the newest of inventions will be and how they will benefit many more of us to come.

The idea that it is all just a waste, part of the folly of mankind? ??? No! It is in part even  a material expression of the beauty of man's willingness to invest a whole lifetime for the benefit of total strangers that have suffered so greatly from awful trauma and diseases.

 I first saw the development of welding under argon atmosphere back in the 1970's, saw the first tanks used, saw the first products made. Those products are still holding people together  today.

There is good stuff that has come from the bold  dedicated inventors that have come from the space industry, lots and lots of good stuff. Much of it used by  most of us without every knowing  of the impetus that led to the existance of that "stuff".  It is all around us, in our workplaces, in our homes, and even our clothing and  our transportation in our driveways.

Ps- Titanium mesh was what Dr. Ben Carson used in the surgery that made him famous, the surgery on the Binder twins. That mesh came directly from the call by President Kennedy saying "We will put a man on the moon within ten years". There is a direct trail from that statement to the invention of that mesh .

And, what I have been privileged to have seen is just a very small sample of the much larger good that has come about by people with vision  and determination that are not afraid of risk and hard hard work. Though talented inventors engineers chemists and doctors, they all enjoyed the hard work of their hands, and took satisfaction in knowing of so many that  have better and longer lives for it. 

Let me ask you a few questions on history since you have first had experience?

Ever heard of operation "paper clip"?

By whom and how did NASA get started? 

Nazi rockets and technology was at least 50 years beyond the rest of the worlds. When Wernher von Braun was publicly asked, "how did Germany become so rapidly advanced from the rest of the world", what did he say?

I'm not denying what-so-ever we benefited greatly from the space program. I question how this advancement took place by an occult regime in so few years. Then illegally imported into the United States. 

[Dennis1209]

20 hours ago, JTC said:

I agree Dennis, considering where our knowledge and technology was in the 60's and 70's it should have taken at least 100 yrs to reach what we are now. So assuming someone is helping us the question then becomes, who, but more importantly is why? I'd like to believe God is giving us this knowledge for our good but everything I know from the Bible says that's probably not true. Our technology is like a double edged sword. Many good things came from it such as improved prosthetic limbs. I cringe to think of the old wooden peg legs and don't forget the fictional Captain Hook who lost his hand. The Internet is another gift of mixed blessings. 50 yrs ago I would have never known anyone outside NYS but today I have communicated with people all over the world. I like this. But the Internet has also made the porn industry possible including the rise in human trafficking and more people getting hooked on porn than would have been possible in the 70's. In spite of all this I think God wants us to try to control these things. Technology changes but God's rules don't. The people of God always had it hard and it still is.     

Hi JTC,

Well, let's just use the United States and secular reasoning for a moment. Most all technology and advancements seem to land in the hands of government and the military at first, for further advancement under black programs for war. Eventually those benefits / advancements trickle down to the civilian population, GPS as just one example. Whom would be most interested in seeing death, world war, advanced weapons of mass destruction (deceive, destroy, kill)? 

Yes, we have benefited greatly in medicine and technology. However, where's all this DNA genome tampering, splicing, Crisper Cass9, cloning technology, etc. leading to? It's no secret what this convergence of robotics, nanotechnology, gene editing and artificial intelligence is leading to. Whom has a vested thousands of years long ambition and goal to destroy God's chosen people and humanities death, deception and destruction? 

Just my thoughts.

[JTC]

22 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Hi JTC,

Well, let's just use the United States and secular reasoning for a moment. Most all technology and advancements seem to land in the hands of government and the military at first, for further advancement under black programs for war. Eventually those benefits / advancements trickle down to the civilian population, GPS as just one example. Whom would be most interested in seeing death, world war, advanced weapons of mass destruction (deceive, destroy, kill)? 

Yes, we have benefited greatly in medicine and technology. However, where's all this DNA genome tampering, splicing, Crisper Cass9, cloning technology, etc. leading to? It's no secret what this convergence of robotics, nanotechnology, gene editing and artificial intelligence is leading to. Whom has a vested thousands of years long ambition and goal to destroy God's chosen people and humanities death, deception and destruction? 

Just my thoughts.

Hi Dennis,  Btw, what is Crisper Class9, I never heard of that?

I know what you're saying. But thank God He uses some of this stuff to help us. I read several yrs ago that a prosthetic hand was developed that had the sensation of touch. It wasn't perfected yet but by now it should be. I figure it's too expensive so they either canned it or it's only for the very wealthy.

Where do you think this is leading to? I hope some of it leads to robotic soldiers so less people are hurt. It can also lead to The Borg, which are a Star Trek race of cyborgs that no longer think for themselves. They are a nightmarish creature that's more machine than human. I hope we don't do that.

This is slightly off topic, but last night I heard something on the ch 11 news that I'm surprised they said. Supposedly, an asteroid is headed for earth that's the size of the empire state building. However, it shouldn't hit us until 2135. If true this may be what Trump's Space Force is about. Again if true, this is the kind of news that can start a panic and some people (especially atheists) may quit trying to live any semblance of a decent life. Maybe it's just fake news?

[Dennis1209]

4 hours ago, JTC said:

Hi Dennis,  Btw, what is Crisper Class9, I never heard of that?

I know what you're saying. But thank God He uses some of this stuff to help us. I read several yrs ago that a prosthetic hand was developed that had the sensation of touch. It wasn't perfected yet but by now it should be. I figure it's too expensive so they either canned it or it's only for the very wealthy.

Where do you think this is leading to? I hope some of it leads to robotic soldiers so less people are hurt. It can also lead to The Borg, which are a Star Trek race of cyborgs that no longer think for themselves. They are a nightmarish creature that's more machine than human. I hope we don't do that.

This is slightly off topic, but last night I heard something on the ch 11 news that I'm surprised they said. Supposedly, an asteroid is headed for earth that's the size of the empire state building. However, it shouldn't hit us until 2135. If true this may be what Trump's Space Force is about. Again if true, this is the kind of news that can start a panic and some people (especially atheists) may quit trying to live any semblance of a decent life. Maybe it's just fake news?

Google "crispr cas9". Don't take my word for it, but it's a genome editing tool anyone can obtain and use in their basements and tinker with genes / DNA. The Genie is out of the box now and can't be put back in. Think of all the evil people and nations globally using this technology for war and nefarious reasons. If a commoner can order a gene editing tool in the mail now, think how far advanced it must be in laboratories and research facilities.

A lot of this testing with DNA and gene editing is hereditary, meaning it will be genetically passed down from generation to generation and can't be stopped. Humans and nature for centuries has been altering and modifying species. i.e. Zebra's with horses, lions with tigers, fruits and vegetables, German Shepard's with Pit Bulls, etc. That's modifying species of the same "kind". The Lord forbids us from tinkering / altering "kinds", i.e. a human with a pig, fish with a human, bull with a human, etc. 

The heathen and Hebrews, as well as the Egyptians, Greeks and many other cultures had a big problem with worshiping half human and half bulls, frog gods, fish gods, etc. (Chimera's). Do you suppose that suddenly one day some guy walked into the field and saw a _____________ (insert bull, frog, fish, etc.) and said, "hey, I think I want to worship this inferior creature, then eventually spread their warped view? Or was there something to this, perhaps these creatures did exist at one time. Maybe prior to Noah's flood, as the Lord only destroyed man and beast upon the earth. 

Is history starting to repeat itself, there's nothing new under the sun. All things that were will be again? 

As far as an asteroid or meteor impacting Earth, I see several instances in Revelation where that looks very likely to me. I see no reason why that couldn't happen even before the tribulation or at any time. I see no concrete inference of the United States existence in the tribulation, therefore as a world superpower we are either incapable of doing anything, sitting on the sideline (not likely), or not in existence as a nation and power. I believe the later and what event(s) may cause that? 

Trump's "Space Force", that's a good one. I wouldn't suppose that would infer the weaponizing of space, as there's a treaty in place that prohibits it. It's worth is weight in paper everyone knows. At the moment I'm just guessing, but for those who have been paying attention, for some reason the elite and wealthy have been purchasing land, homes and bunkers in record numbers outside of the United States like never before. I question if the government(s) and some of the elite and wealthy know something the rest of the world doesn't know yet? Could this "Space Force" be a national or global effort to protect Earth from something that is certainly or potentially coming upon us? Or is it something to be reveled that is so advanced for a specific purpose of extended space travel? My guess is as good as anyone else's. Time will tell.

[JTC]

Dennis,

The Nepihlim are 1 of my special interests. I'm of the opinion that they came into existence by the fallen angels doing something to our genes. Once I accepted that is wasn't too long to realize they might have messed with animal genes also. IMO there's a good chance things like Centaurs and even monstrosities may have once existed. I have a lot of time on my hands and with the help of the Internet I've done a lot of reading I never would have before. From what I've read, the things that were going on before the flood were much worse than I imagined. I can't say those things were real but they shed new light on why God had to destroy life on the earth.

Thanks for responding.