AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

[Revelation Man]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

Islam was a far greater power in the Mideast and the area around the Mediterranean than Rome. That and the fact that the beast must come from either Egypt, Asia Minor, Greece or the Mideast. Rome has nothing to do with the beast, or the beast kingdom. 

Israel was DEAD MEN'S BONES....Read Ezekiel 37's Prophecy via the Valley of Dry Bones. How can Israel be BEASTED OVER when there is no Israel? God sees them as dead, they are dispersed the World over. This the Brits are not a Beast, The Ottoman Empire is not a Beast and Islam is not a Beast. It only takes a little reasoning to understand that if 5 Have Fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Greece) and if ONE IS (Rome) then there is only ONE BEAST LEFT and we are told in Two Places that it is a MAN !!

Daniel 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the BEAST was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Revelation 19:20 And the BEAST was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

So how is Islam a BEAST? There is no Israel to Conquer, Rule or Enslave from 70-125 AD to 1948. So there can be NO BEAST in that time period. God saw Israel as DEAD MEN'S BONES, God doesn't care how we see things, its irrelevant, God stated ISRAEL WAS DEAD !!

Gabriel then tells us that the coming Little Horn/Anti-Christ will be an Assyrian (Turk-Isaiah ch. 10) will come out of the Fourth Beast (E.U.) and will also come out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms in the LATTER TIMES thus he has to Arise out of Two Kingdoms at once. Thus he can only Arise out of Greece, which is in the E.U. there is no if ands or buts if the Scriptures are 100 percent correct, this has to be the Conclusion.

Islam will be destroyed with all other False Religions by the Beast's Kings, the Harlot = False Religion. 

You left out the most important FACTOR, Israel was not Enslaved, Conquered or Ruled by Islam and never has been and never will be, God saw them as Dead Men's Bones until 1948, then they beat the Islam Nations in WAR at every turn !! 

A Beast is one that Conquers, Enslaves or Rules Israel..........THERE WAS NO ISRAEL !! You guys totally dismiss what God says, Israel was DEAD !!

[Daniel 11:36]

The beast will rule over the Middle Eastern countries during the coming 70th week decreed .... these are Islamic countries

Keep in mind that the Bible centers upon Israel and the Middle East for prophetic institution

.... and know that the Roman Empire is not mentioned in any prophecy of the Bible's rendering

The future prophecies are all centered upon Israel and the Middle East .... the balance of the rest of the world will just be in the wake of the Lord's wrath and judgment

Edited June 14, 2018 by Daniel 11:36

[Revelation Man]

The Birthplace of the Anti-Christ Revealed

Isaiah says the Anti-Christ is an Assyrian. The Anti-Christ is said to come to power via the fourth beast in the last days per Daniel Chapter Seven. The Anti-Christ is also said to arise out of the Grecian empire in the last days, so how do we reconcile these different understandings ?

This is established fairly easily, Daniel did say the understandings would be bound up until the end. The Anti-Christ in Daniel chapters seven and eight is shown, if read properly, to arise out of two kingdoms at once, but how can this be ?

Daniel chapter seven is fairly straightforward, we understand this to be about the four beast systems, the fourth beast is where the little horn (Anti-Christ) will arise out of, most everyone understands the fourth beast to have been Rome, but in the last days/end times this has to be the European Union. Or some Rome Centric kingdom that comes together shortly.

Daniel chapter eight is explained in detail by Gabriel the angel, it is the he goat (Alexander the Great) conquering Persia (the Ram) and Gabriel interpreted this dream for Daniel.

Daniel 8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

We should note, this is speaking of the end time, it is not speaking of Antiochus Epiphanes who came before Jesus was even born. The word Indignation means: (Hebrew Word za'am meaning Gods Fury at Sin) so at the Last End of Indignation means right before Gods Judgment of Sin/Vials or Bowls of Gods Wrath (Revelation/Seven Vials of Wrath).

(Gabriel's Interpretation) Daniel 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. 21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. 22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. (The Four Generals that stood up in Alexanders stead were Ptolemy, Seleucus, Cassander and Lysimachus. )

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

This is clearly speaking about the end times/last days when the sins have come full/ bowls of Gods wrath, a fierce king shall arise out of one of the four kingdoms that stood up in Alexander the Greats stead, speaking dark sentences (understanding riddles and conundrums) and he comes to power.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: (Satan gives him his Seat/Power) and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, (he claims to Be God) and by peace shall destroy many:(Through peace treaties he deceives many) he shall also stand up against the Prince (Jesus) of princes; but he shall be broken without hand (by the Holy Spirit).

Jesus destroys the Anti-Christ his kings and their armies without hand (with the Sword of the Spirit/Holy Spirit) by the countenance of his coming, Amen. This guy magnifies himself and says in the temple of God, I am God !!

Now, so many people say chapter eight is about Antiochus Epiphanes, so I always feel the need to prove that this is about the end times, when Gods wrath is come full. This is about the Little Horn/Anti-Christ. And he arises out of their kingdom in the last days, so in essence he arises out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms in the last days, but which one ? Well, since the Anti-Christ arises out of the Fourth Beast also, then this other Kingdom has to lie within the borders of the European Union. Only Cassander's kingdom of Greece (Macedonia) is in the European Union. The "Assyrian" arising from Greece would be very, very possible since Greece shares a border with Turkey, and many, many Turks live in Greece, so the Assyrian Anti-Christ is born in Greece, and comes to power in Greece, then in the European Union. But what does John say in Revelation about the Beast that arises out of the Sea ? By the way, he was on Patmos, a small Greek Island when he saw this vision.

Rev. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The Main body is described by John as like a leopard !!

Put it all together, the "Assyrian" Anti-Christ is born in Greece, of Turkish parents or grandparents, he comes to power in the European Union.

This is where the Anti-Christ is from. 

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This blog is about two years old. This is me just following the Scriptures. 

[Daniel 11:36]

Try the Seleucid component .... this is where Antiochus IV was from

And this is were the beast will come from 

[Diaste]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

Israel was DEAD MEN'S BONES....Read Ezekiel 37's Prophecy via the Valley of Dry Bones. How can Israel be BEASTED OVER when there is no Israel? God sees them as dead, they are dispersed the World over. This the Brits are not a Beast, The Ottoman Empire is not a Beast and Islam is not a Beast. It only takes a little reasoning to understand that if 5 Have Fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Greece) and if ONE IS (Rome) then there is only ONE BEAST LEFT and we are told in Two Places that it is a MAN !!

Daniel 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the BEAST was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Revelation 19:20 And the BEAST was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

So how is Islam a BEAST? There is no Israel to Conquer, Rule or Enslave from 70-125 AD to 1948. So there can be NO BEAST in that time period. God saw Israel as DEAD MEN'S BONES, God doesn't care how we see things, its irrelevant, God stated ISRAEL WAS DEAD !!

Gabriel then tells us that the coming Little Horn/Anti-Christ will be an Assyrian (Turk-Isaiah ch. 10) will come out of the Fourth Beast (E.U.) and will also come out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms in the LATTER TIMES thus he has to Arise out of Two Kingdoms at once. Thus he can only Arise out of Greece, which is in the E.U. there is no if ands or buts if the Scriptures are 100 percent correct, this has to be the Conclusion.

Islam will be destroyed with all other False Religions by the Beast's Kings, the Harlot = False Religion. 

You left out the most important FACTOR, Israel was not Enslaved, Conquered or Ruled by Islam and never has been and never will be, God saw them as Dead Men's Bones until 1948, then they beat the Islam Nations in WAR at every turn !! 

A Beast is one that Conquers, Enslaves or Rules Israel..........THERE WAS NO ISRAEL !! You guys totally dismiss what God says, Israel was DEAD !!

It's not us missing it.

[Diaste]

2 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

Try the Seleucid component .... this is where Antiochus IV was from

And this is were the beast will come from 

Agreed. It's very obvious.

[Revelation Man]

2 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

Try the Seleucid component .... this is where Antiochus IV was from

And this is were the beast will come from 

Daniel 7 says he comes from one of the Four Generals, he will be the King of the North. As per his lineage, hes is an Assyrian a Turk, he is a King of of ONE OF THE FOUR GENERALS, that is all that is stated.

Daniel 7:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

9 And out of ONE OF THEM came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

Towards the SOUTH/EAST and Israel means he comes out of the North West !! He has to come out of the Fourth Beast ALSO, thus only Greece gives him the access to become the E.U. President. 

Google (WIKIPEDIA) the European Neighborhood Policy: Israel and the European Union entered into a treaties for Seven Years from 2007-2013 and then another treaties was signed in 2014 and runs through 2020. Those of course are seven year treaties/agreements/covenants. And to top that its with "MANY".

European Neighborhood Policy

The European Union's European Neighborhood Policy(ENP) aims at bringing the EU and its neighbors closer, to their mutual benefit and interest. It was launched in 2004 to help the EU support and foster stability, security and prosperity in its closest neighborhood.

The European Neighborhood Policy governs the EU's relations with 16 of the its closest Eastern and Southern Neighbors. To the South: Algeria, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Palestine*, Syria** and Tunisia, and to the East: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, the Republic of Moldova and Ukraine. Russia takes part in Cross-Border Cooperation activities under the ENP, but is not part of the ENP as such.

Google the Roman Empire Map and then Google the European Neighborhood Policy Map, do a DOUBLE TAKE !! They look identical in LAND MASS !! The MANY via Daniel 11:40-43 are who brother? 

 

Daniel 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: (Probably Turkey) and the king of the north (A.C.) shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries(MANY), and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land (Israel), and many countries shall be overthrown (THE MANY): but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.  (All East of Israel thus Jordan, where the Jews Flee via Petra)

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

So now we know what the MANY are in Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 8:23. 

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with MANY (Israel and those other Mediterranean Sea Region Nations) for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy MANY: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Revelation 13 and Daniel 7 both say the Beasts will arise out of the [Mediterranean] Sea Region !! The Anti-Christ is not going to just Conquer Jerusalem and Israel, hes going to Conquer the Whole Region all at once. 

Yes Antiochus Epiphanes is a Forerunner to the Anti-Christ and Jason (High Priest with Hellenized name) seems to be a Forerunner to the False Prophet.  The Little Horn is CLEARLY STATED to be coming out of ONE OF THE FOUR GENERALS in the End Time, not a specific one per se, but it is a specific one once you figure out the Riddle, he has to arise out of Two Kingdoms at once. The Fourth Beast (European Union) and one of the Four Generals. Thus it can only be a man born in Greece which then gives him the right to be the E.U. President. He will also have to be an Assyrian Turk. 

[Revelation Man]

2 hours ago, Diaste said:

It's not us missing it.

Yea, I have all the facts and follow the scriptures. You guys believe Joel Richardson or someone like him, just the new idea that comes along, I follow the scriptures for my information. Islam will be wiped out. We'll just have to agree to disagree. 

God Bless, need some rest....

Edited June 14, 2018 by Revelation Man

[Diaste]

2 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Daniel chapter seven is fairly straightforward, we understand this to be about the four beast systems, the fourth beast is where the little horn (Anti-Christ) will arise out of, most everyone understands the fourth beast to have been Rome, but in the last days/end times this has to be the European Union. Or some Rome Centric kingdom that comes together shortly.

Most everyone understands? That does not make the truth. Rome is a fabrication for the beast empire. Rome arrives at this position based on one verse fragment from Rev 17:10, "...one is..." No other evidence. Just that. Rome is rationalized into being as the beast empire by illogic, to wit: "The 'one is' must be the ruling power in place when John received the vision therefore, Rome. Further, this illogic continues, precedes rather, with the just as illogical assumption the 'five are fallen' must include some other empires related to Daniels statute. Hence we get Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece as the 'fallen five'. None of these are called out by name in Rev 17:10. Identification of these five cannot be ascertained from Rev 17:10. Neither can these five be identified through Dan 2 as there are five here but only 3 named in the prophecy from Daniel. The identification of the 'fallen five' as Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece is an addition to the text with no evidence and zero justification. 

Whoever the 'fallen five' are is yet undisclosed. Though I lean toward a line of 7 kings giving rise to the 8th as future from John's day based on Rev 4:1, "I will shew thee things which must be hereafter." So the 'fallen five' likely could not have come before as the, "things which must be HEREAFTER' are from that point onward.

 

2 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Now, so many people say chapter eight is about Antiochus Epiphanes,

I have never heard anyone say this. Dan 11 records a prophecy about Antiochus IV. Nothing in Dan 8 suggests Antiochus in the least. Dan 11 follows the reign of the kings of the Seleucid empire right to the willful king who is the beast.

Dan 11:36, "And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods,"

This is spoken by Paul, 2 Thess 2,:4" Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped;" 

This is the beast and he cometh from the Mideast, from the Seleucid empire, one of the notable one that stood up after Alexander's death, not in his power, but in their own.

2 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Well, since the Anti-Christ arises out of the Fourth Beast also, then this other Kingdom has to lie within the borders of the European Union.

This is assumption based on the faulty logic the 4th beast 'must be' Rome. See above.

2 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The "Assyrian" arising from Greece would be very, very possible since Greece shares a border with Turkey, and many, many Turks live in Greece, so the Assyrian Anti-Christ is born in Greece, and comes to power in Greece, then in the European Union.

Well he wouldn't be Syrian then would he?

2 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Put it all together, the "Assyrian" Anti-Christ is born in Greece, of Turkish parents or grandparents, he comes to power in the European Union.

This would make him a Greek citizen of Turkish ancestry. Not Syrian at all. He will not come to power in the EU or anywhere else except for the Mideast. The beast will rise to power through the power and authority given to him by Satan through the deadly head wound that was healed. This the proximal cause of the worship and awe of the world for the beast and the dragon. The beast will NOT come to power by any other means as his path to power and authority is described thus; "and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, " Because of the power of the dragon and healing of a mortal wound.

This is a bit crazy. How are we supposed to know if some guy we never heard of was healed in some dark cave? Or a back alley? Or a hospital or a mansion? Who would care? And the world certainly would not worship some obscure individual even with a rumor of miraculous healing. Let me tell you what I think is likely:

It's more than plausible the beast will mirror at least some of what Jesus endured on the way to the cross. The public trial, a conviction, sentencing and then execution, only to be raised a short time in the future claiming to be some superman or demigod. So this guy will probably be infamous in the same way Jesus gained infamy with the religious authorities. Only the beast will likely be globally infamous as it's not going to be just a local event like the resurrection of Jesus,;this will be global and shared over all the social media extant. Both the execution and the resurrection of this man will be universally played over and over again on cell phones and everyone will be in awe.

The last time this occurred was 2000 years ago; the worlds collective jaw will drop when it happens again.

Why would this be plausible? Because initially it's to duplicate the power of the Most High to prove our Father is not all powerful. Kinda like Moses and the sorcerers in Egypt when they duplicated the power of God through Moses.

And remember the dragon? The world worships him as well. Why? Because the world knows the dragon is responsible for the resurrection and power of the beast, "and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."

This guy will not be a smooth politician with great hair striding to a glided dais wrapped in sartorial splendor while delivering clever speeches before swooning crowds on his way to power. The power and authority will come first through the mockery of the death and resurrection of Jesus by the dragon.

This guy is a BEAST, not a person.

He will look and act the part.

Don't be fooled.

He's on his way.

 

[Revelation Man]

11 hours ago, Diaste said:

Most everyone understands? That does not make the truth. Rome is a fabrication for the beast empire. Rome arrives at this position based on one verse fragment from Rev 17:10, "...one is..." No other evidence. Just that. Rome is rationalized into being as the beast empire by illogic, to wit: "The 'one is' must be the ruling power in place when John received the vision therefore, Rome. Further, this illogic continues, precedes rather, with the just as illogical assumption the 'five are fallen' must include some other empires related to Daniels statute. Hence we get Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece as the 'fallen five'. None of these are called out by name in Rev 17:10. Identification of these five cannot be ascertained from Rev 17:10. Neither can these five be identified through Dan 2 as there are five here but only 3 named in the prophecy from Daniel. The identification of the 'fallen five' as Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece is an addition to the text with no evidence and zero justification. 

Whoever the 'fallen five' are is yet undisclosed. Though I lean toward a line of 7 kings giving rise to the 8th as future from John's day based on Rev 4:1, "I will shew thee things which must be hereafter." So the 'fallen five' likely could not have come before as the, "things which must be HEREAFTER' are from that point onward.

No sir I don't buy that thought processes as all, its just the opposite it seems to me, rather illogical to consider anyone but Rome. The 4 Beasts of Daniel Arise out of the [Mediterranean] Sea. Thus look at all the Empires on a map from Israel's time, they are all Empires that cover the Mediterranean Sea Region and Rome covers the WHOLE SEA REGION. 

I truly can't comprehend why anyone would think Rome was not a Beast other than it doesn't fit into their formula via their "understandings". We had the Pax-Romanus that allowed the Gospel to go forth World Wide via a common language (Koine Greek), and an all Roads leads to Rome type of Peace, thus all Subjects of Rome were free to travel the whole Empire, thus the Gospel spread. Jesus was crucified by Rome. Rome was the Fourth Great Empire from Daniel's point in time. The ONE IS just proves further who we all know it is, meaning the vast majority of Christendom, I would say its at least 98 percent who understand Rome is the Fourth Beast. Gods Riddles are not easy things, but Rome is pretty basic stuff.

I truly don't what your mindset is but I know it causes you to overlook the obvious n this case brother.

A Beast of Daniel represents an Animal that DOMINATES and thus a Country that Overpowers, Conquers, Enslaves or Rules over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region (MSR) and thus its not hard to track who these nations spoken of in Revelation are at all. 

1.) Egypt enslaved Israel for what the bible says was 400 years. The pharaoh tried to run them into the sea/kill them, God saved them, Beast Empire #1.

2.) Assyria took 10 of the Northern Tribes away and murdered many, they were a Beast Empire over the region. Beast Empire #2.

3.) Babylon was of course the Head of Gold, they took Israel Captive 70 years. Beast Empire #3 via Rev. look back in time. Beast Empire #1 from Daniel on.

4.) Persia was a Beast Empire over the MSR like Babylon, however they choose to allow Israel to return and rebuild their Temple/City Walls. Beast #4.(#2)

5.) Greece Conquered Persia and ruled Israel and the MSR, they of course are Beast #5 and via the Daniel time-line Beast (#3).

6.) Rome was the GREATEST of All the MSR Beasts, it covered the WHOLE SEA REGION, look it up Rome was the most ruthless and the strongest Beast Power in the region. It was Beast #6 via Revelation's look back through time. It was Beast (#4) from Daniel's time on. 

Now please name me any other Nations that Ruled over Israel before Rome, besides the ones I mentioned. Your understanding seems to think one o the Beasts has to be an End Time Beast and since Daniel only names four Rome can't be this End Time Beast (maybe I am wrong on your understanding) but Daniel names FIVE Beasts, not Four, just because he points out only Four ANIMAL Beast Kingdoms, and doesn't paint the last one as an Animal, but as a MAN seems to have evaded your understandings here brother, but in Dan. 7:11 and in Rev. 19:20 we are told the LAS BEAST is a MAN with BODY that gets cast into HELL !! That makes 5 Beasts, and that my friend is why all the Seven Beast Heads is REDUCED (10/20, 5/10, 1/2) to Kings that HAVE FALLEN !! The Last King (Beast Head) never passes his Beast Kingdom on, he is the ONLY KING to start as the King of a Beast System and also DIE AS THIS KING !! Thus he himself is THE BEAST (#7 or #5) and thus he is called a Beast. Thus you have Four Beast Kingdoms AND a Little Horn (Beast) that arises out of the old Fourth Beast Head !! (Europe). 

7.) The Anti-Christ = Beast # 7 via Revelation, and Beast #5 via the book of Daniel. He is running the Kingdom of Iron and Clay feet. Jesus the Rock cut out of the Mountain will SMASH the Feet of the Statue and cause the Dark Kingdom of Satan to fall....Babylon has fallen, has fallen. The Clay represents Demon INFLUENCE mixing with the rule of Man, they are after all cast down from Heaven and Apollyon and his hordes is released from the pit, The Iron represents the Revived Rome part of this Empire via the EXACT SAME FOOTPRINT of the old Fourth Beast thus he COMES OUT of the Fourth Beast be the Anti-Christ himself is also a BEAST, and he is more heavily influenced by Satan and Apollyon than all of the other Beasts combined thus we see Miraculous Powers from the False Prophet and the Anti-Christ, thus the Iron (Mankind) mixes [powers] with the Clay (Demonic Influence). 

Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Just after verse 43 says THEY try to mingle THEMSELVES (Demons) with the SEED of men..........the Babylonian Kingdom Falls. Babylon is the HEAD, thus Babylon has Fallen has Fallen. Men can not be ruled by Demons, they do not MIX or CLEAVE together. Satan in other words only leads mankind to Hell, no Kingdom on earth other than Jesus Christ/God will be allowed to stand. Amen. 

As per you not being able to identify the Five, come on man, step up your game brother..... Via what a Beast is we know via History who they are. Likewise with the 5th Beast of Daniel which is the 7th Beast Head, God gives us riddles that the World can not understand, thus He makes these Riddles tough to decipher on purpose.  Look at it like this my friend.

The Statue has 5 KINGDOMS, there is NO DOUBT about that at all, and one of them is like unto another but different. Babylon = Gold, Persia = Silver, Greece = Brass, Rome = Iron AND The Anti-Christ/Little Horn/Beast Kingdom = Iron AND Clay........NOT JUST Iron, its a different Beast Head !! 

Likewise we have the Lion, the Bear, the Leopard, the Fierce Beast with Iron teeth and the Little Horn and his 10 Kings with Great Demonic Influence !! 

The 8th King is a Demon named Apollyon, he will ever be a "PHYSICAL KING" on earth. Hes OF THE SEVEN, meaning hes acting as a Demon to influence WORLD EVENTS....This 8th Kings was........WASSSSSSSSSSS....... Get this, the Prince of Persia via Daniel chapter 10 !! 

As per Rev. 4:1 speaking about the HEREAFTER, that is exactly what it is doing. Just like Rev. 12:1-5 is about the Dragon, Israel and Jesus Birth, but the POINTED PROPHETIC UTTERING is about Israel Fleeing Judea from the Anti-Christ. Likewise the FIVE FALLEN......ONE IS....one is YET TO COME, points toward the one that is NOT YET COME and his coming actions on the earth, this Rev. 17 is all about False Religion (Harlot) being DESTROYED by the  coming 10 Kings and the Anti-Christ/Beast. So it is all Future Events. 

God bless