Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 hour ago, vlad said: A special point. Good works or bad works are of extreme importance in case of leaders of nations. They can lead whole nations to either peace or disaster. As we know from history much depends on them. What should the Christians do? Wait and see what will happen or warn them if something is wrong? I think they should not be afraid to express a warning. Have they got ears to hear? If they have they are serving God as they hear his instructions. If not, they are batting for the Palestinian imposters earthly government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Yowm said: But you are a judge of Paul by stating Paul is inconsistent with what Jesus taught. Why did Peter approve of Paul if Paul was inconsistent with Jesus? Maybe it is your interpretation that is inconsistent with Scripture? Lol Im judging what of pauls writings yes, you bet! I am not Pauls judge He teaches faith only. At worst I can only kill the flesh. Hardly above God or a good work is it? Perhaps the truth about scripture finds others upset. (challenging peoples beliefs) If Paul is telling the truth and doing good works then what terror should visit Paul? Edited April 29, 2018 by Dan_79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: In what area is Paul's writings different from Paul's? ? Ready to define a Jew yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, Yowm said: Why? That has nothing to do with the OP. Because its helpful? For clarity of discussion? Standard practice of between two people having a discussion? Why wouldn't you? I have asked more than once, I have explained why it would help me (and other readers) with regards to the multiple examples synonymous with this specific word can cause confusion (even deliberate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Yowm said: Jesus taught faith alone. John 3:16. Who taught you to pit Jesus against Paul? Which Church? Group? ? Your direction of enquiry is taking an adhominem route now. I just read the bible. I like the neutrality of non denominational reading as it removes the bias and division and confusion that satan enjoys so much. I am not scared to ask questions, it is a duty to deduce truth from falsehood. John clearly states the truth shall set you free. Edited April 29, 2018 by Dan_79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Yowm said: @Dan_79 Sorry, meant to ask, "In what area is Paul's writings different from Jesus?" No worries. He advised we submit ourselves to the government. Jesus explicitly taught his fathers instructions commandments etc Edited April 29, 2018 by Dan_79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: I gave you many Scriptures of Peter affirming Paul, and Paul's explanation. But you just seem to ignore them. As a student of Scripture how do you account for Peter praising Paul if Paul and Jesus are at odds?? Peter praises Paul in which books or letters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Yowm said: A specific example where there is a variance or contradiction please. I have already. Read my posts in this thread. “For we believe that a man is justified by faith even without works of law” – Romans 3:28 3rd attempt..... What do you mean by "Jew"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Yowm said: So you are conceding that Paul does not contradict Peter? Why do you ask? Basically the natural descendants of Jacob, and a 'true Jew' is a natural descendant of Jacob who believes by faith as Abraham did. No. Im happy to read what you have given me to read and digest it when I feel I understand it better I can comment on it and perhaps say thanks to you also. Paul denies them their real name which God gave them: ISRAEL. Notice not all Israelites were from Judea or from the tribe of Judah, certainly not adherents of Judaism and calling Israelites Jews invites confusion. This is what John tells us in revelation. I think it is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_79 Posted April 29, 2018 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 301 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1979 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Yeshua said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes Lord; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Feed my lambs". He said to him a second time, "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Tend my sheep." He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love me?" Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, "Do you love me?" And he said to him, "Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You." Yeshua said to him, "Feed my sheep. Most assuredly I say to you, when you were younger, you bound yourself and walked where you wished; but when you are old, you will stretch forth your hands, and another will bind you and take you where you do not wish." John 21:15-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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