Diaste Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,627 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,367 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Steve Conley said: The Antichrist is killing those who won't take the mark or worship him, and you think he is the minister of God's wrath. For Christ's sake, man get your head clear. I never got that about pretrib either. And pretrib has no answer for that enormous contradiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,627 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,367 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: Which means it didn't start there right? All of the wrath comes from the Seven Seals that Jesus opened. The Seven Trumpets ARE the 7th Seal and the Seven Vials ARE the 7th Trumpet which comes out of the SEVENTH SEAL. Incorrect. 6 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: Its all God's Wrath. Fully incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,066 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 551 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Steve Conley said: So, it is true that you believe that God focuses His wrath upon His faithful martyrs. Those who are saved by the blood of the Lamb and those who will be faithful in their testimony, confessing Christ before men, you say, will receive God's wrath. What kind of twisted and pernicious teaching is that? The Church is in Heaven, the REPENTANT Jews are protected in Petra, thus those Gentiles who came unto Christ AFTER the Rapture or Jews who came to Christ but did not make it to Petra will have to lay their lives down like just like the Disciples did and many others. They could have made the Rapture, but they tarried. They are the 5 virgins who were shut out of the Wedding. God's Wrath against the World will come to pass, if Noah had a Family Member that refused to get in the Ark do you think God would have changed His mind about flooding the whole world? Lots family was saved, but his wife LOOKED BACK and thus was turned to Salt. Those who miss the Rapture will ave to face Consequences. You do see MARTYRS UNDER THE ALTER Don't you? Gods Wrath is unleashed on Mankind, his INSTRUMENT the Anti-Christ will also kill Christians who missed the Rapture. The Church is in Heaven, the Church could not be defeated by Satan, that is what Jesus stated, if you are smart and you are a Christian, you would flee to Petra like the Jews, of you can get there, most will not be able to however. Its best to be ready, we should be on the "Ark" if not we will be in the FLOOD, but our FAITH will still gain Heaven for us. Its that simple, BE READY !! 23 minutes ago, Steve Conley said: The Antichrist is killing those who won't take the mark or worship him, and you think he is the minister of God's wrath. For Christ's sake, man get your head clear. The great tribulation is Satan's wrath (Rev 12:12) through the Beast, False Prophet, and their followers upon God's people (the church, elect, Israel). The GT is ended when God removes the elect from the earth. Then God's wrath begins the day of the Lord, which is focussed upon the earth dwellers. This fierce wrath starts with the blowing of the first trumpet. From the First Seal on is Gods Wrath, who OPENED the Seals? Do not miss the Ark............Marriage to the Lamb. The ELECT are in Heaven, the ELECT Jews are protected in Petra. Rev. ch. 6 clearly states its the Wrath of the Lamb, this all of the Seals are the Lambs Wrath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Conley Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 401 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 226 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: Which means it didn't start there right? All of the wrath comes from the Seven Seals that Jesus opened. The Seven Trumpets ARE the 7th Seal and the Seven Vials ARE the 7th Trumpet which comes out of the SEVENTH SEAL. Those are Bowls of Gods Wrath, what do you think the Trumpets are? I mean 1/3 of the Sea turns to blood, 1/3 ships are destroyed, 1/3 of the Sea Creatures die. The Trees and Grasses are burned, the Demons in the 1st Woe maim and hurt mankind, the 2nd Woe is a 200 Million Angelic Army that kills 1.5 Billion people !! Its all God's Wrath. Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, The fifth seal promises God's wrath. The sixth seal portends God's wrath. The seal in the forehead of the 144,000 protects from God's wrath. The innumerable multitude is safe, having been removed from the sphere of God's wrath. The seventh seal announces God's wrath. The half-hour of silence contemplates God's wrath. The blowing of the first trumpet initiates God's wrath. The vials finish God's wrath. According to Luke 17:26-30; 1Thes 5:2-3, 9; 2Thes 2:6-10 the sixth seal through the blowing of the first trumpet happens on the same literal day. Hallelujah 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,066 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 551 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Diaste said: Incorrect I am correct, Scriptures back me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,627 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,367 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 I read an interesting blurb on Fox. The Trump administration has a plan ready to unveil concerning peace between Israel and the Palestinians, or maybe with some other Arab organizations as well. If they can get it done it's possible such a treaty could be the one that is strengthened for one week. President Trump could be the one to initiate such a heretofore impossible negotiation leading to a covenant for peace. He has done many things outside what is considered norms for US policy domestic and international. I'm hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,627 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,367 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: I am correct, Scriptures back me up. No. Your conviction supports your epistemology, scripture says no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,066 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 551 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Steve Conley said: Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, The fifth seal promises God's wrath. The sixth seal portends God's wrath. The seal in the forehead of the 144,000 protects from God's wrath. The innumerable multitude is safe, having been removed from the sphere of God's wrath. The seventh seal announces God's wrath. The half-hour of silence contemplates God's wrath. The blowing of the first trumpet initiates God's wrath. The vials finish God's wrath. According to Luke 17:26-30; 1Thes 5:2-3, 9; 2Thes 2:6-10 the sixth seal through the blowing of the first trumpet happens on the same literal day. Hallelujah Wrong, God has perfect Symmetry. All of the Seals are Gods Wrath. The People on earth IN THE VISION only understand its Gods Wrath at THIS POINT IN TIME !! They did not think the WARS were Gods Wrath and why would they, they have seen wars from time immemorial so why would anyone think WARS are Gods Wrath? So once the Wars are going on, MANY DIE (5th Seal) and then the men of earth see the Sun, Moon and Star signs via Joel 2 and via other Scriptures, and all of the sudden IT HITS THEM LIKE A TON OF BRICKS !! Oh my, there is a God, we are in the Wrath of God via the Bible which none of us believed was true !! The Wrath is only understood at that moment in time, it surprises me that people can't see these things more clearly, its that old Men's Traditions getting in the way. God DOES NOTHING without perfect Symmetry. God starts nothing in the Middle !! Jesus releases the Anti-Christ on mankind !! That is WRATH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,066 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 551 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Diaste said: I read an interesting blurb on Fox. The Trump administration has a plan ready to unveil concerning peace between Israel and the Palestinians, or maybe with some other Arab organizations as well. If they can get it done it's possible such a treaty could be the one that is strengthened for one week. President Trump could be the one to initiate such a heretofore impossible negotiation leading to a covenant for peace. He has done many things outside what is considered norms for US policy domestic and international. I'm hopeful. That treaties is already in place, its with the E.U. and MANY Nations in the Mediterranean Sea Region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted June 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,627 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,367 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Steve Conley said: Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, The fifth seal promises God's wrath. The sixth seal portends God's wrath. The seal in the forehead of the 144,000 protects from God's wrath. The innumerable multitude is safe, having been removed from the sphere of God's wrath. The seventh seal announces God's wrath. The half-hour of silence contemplates God's wrath. The blowing of the first trumpet initiates God's wrath. The vials finish God's wrath. According to Luke 17:26-30; 1Thes 5:2-3, 9; 2Thes 2:6-10 the sixth seal through the blowing of the first trumpet happens on the same literal day. Hallelujah I do believe scripture supports both the 6th seal and the 7th trump as the portents of the wrath of the Lamb and God. This means trumps are sounding during the opening of the seals, on a sort of concurrent successive fashion, as it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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