dad2 Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,506 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, one.opinion said: It is entirely possible to accept a literal Adam and Eve along with an earth and universe billions of years old. One could also accept that the tooth fairy snorted the wrong powder and sneezed the universe out. So how would that work? We have God forming a man from the ground, and then the same day putting him to sleep and taking a bone from him that He used to created a woman? But He did all this on a planet not created in the way He said? (example, the earth first before the stars and sun) Edited November 5, 2021 by dad2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 As you see, the Genesis story is presented to us as a figurative account, so that isn't a problem, any more than the fact that there are two contradictory "genealogies" for Jesus in the Bible. 11 hours ago, dad2 said: Why not throw out the bible? Because even if the Bible is often figurative, it's still God's Word. And you should still respect it, even if you don't agree with Him on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, dad2 said: One could also accept that the tooth fairy snorted the wrong powder and sneezed the universe out. That's no less weird than revising Genesis to be a literal history. Once you start doing that, all sorts of stories are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 How Old Is the Universe? Our Answer Keeps Getting Better. After thousands of years, we’re getting more consistent age estimates. https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-old-is-the-universe-our-answer-keeps-getting-better?utm_source=pocket-newtab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,506 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, The Barbarian said: As you see, the Genesis story is presented to us as a figurative account, so that isn't a problem, any more than the fact that there are two contradictory "genealogies" for Jesus in the Bible. Because even if the Bible is often figurative, it's still God's Word. And you should still respect it, even if you don't agree with Him on this. There is a difference between a figure of the true and figuring it is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.10 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 hours ago, dad2 said: One could also accept that the tooth fairy snorted the wrong powder and sneezed the universe out. What is the purpose of this ridiculous comparison? You follow this with a question, but when you start with something this antagonistic, it sure seems that you are not really interested in hearing an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,506 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, one.opinion said: What is the purpose of this ridiculous comparison? You follow this with a question, but when you start with something this antagonistic, it sure seems that you are not really interested in hearing an answer. Once you pull anchor from Scripture, there is no limit to the delusional stories one could come up with. Then there was the other part of the post you ignored.. So how would that work? We have God forming a man from the ground, and then the same day putting him to sleep and taking a bone from him that He used to created a woman? But He did all this on a planet not created in the way He said? (example, the earth first before the stars and sun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, dad2 said: There is a difference between a figure of the true and figuring it is not true. Yes, and that is the YE creationist failure. If a Bible verse is figurative, they figure it's false. You should accept all of scripture, even the parts that may make you uncomfortable. Once you pull anchor from Scripture, there is no limit to the delusional stories one could come up with. Edited November 5, 2021 by The Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.10 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 36 minutes ago, dad2 said: Then there was the other part of the post you ignored.. I ignored it because I'm not convinced you really want to have a conversation about it. Why would I waste my time trying to explain when you show no sign of willingness to consider it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted November 5, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,506 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2021 50 minutes ago, The Barbarian said: Yes, and that is the YE creationist failure. If a Bible verse is figurative, they figure it's false. You should accept all of scripture, even the parts that may make you uncomfortable. The spirit is needed to tell us if something was some sort of fairy tale or mere figure. Your opinion on what is figurative conflicts with basic bible writing, such as creation. His spirit is not what is telling us it is not true or that 'did God reaaalllly say that' blah blah. Be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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