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Christians seem to be of the mindset that it is impossible to keep from sin, but the scriptures tell us to do just that, has God set us an impossible task or are we enabled by him and given what we need to do just that

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God would not give us a command and leave us helpless, but instead he will give is every tool every ability to do so.  Now its important to note that we will still sin sometimes as in... is it possible to never ever sin again... no... but it is possible to overcome a particular sin in our lives.  lets take a look at Galatians 5.

Gal 5:16  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17  For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18  But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20  Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23  Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24  And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25  If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Gal 5:26  Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

The key to over coming sin in our lives is to Walk in the Spirit.  It is to always pray continuously.  always be praising and thanking Him.  It is to stay in constant fellowship with God.  Basically we must stay in His presence.  Joh 4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

To be in constant fellowship we must live a repentant lifestyle.  we must bring every thought under obedience.  we must not hold back a portion of our heart... a good example of holding back a portion is Ananias and Sapphira in acts.  A good many Christians are trusting God with 90 percent of their heart or life but the are still holding on to just that little bit and God wants it all.  The Book says Gods Spirit is a consuming fire... and fire eats and eats until there is nothing left.  this is much how God does us.  He keeps calling us higher.  He keeps sanctifying more and more of our heart as we seek Him.  and as we do this seeking Him, or resting in Him, or abiding in Him, or continuing in Him as scripture tells us to do he conforms us more and more into His likeness. 

It is by Gods Spirit we are enabled to overcome sin in our life... but we must seek it.  and we must seek first His Kingdom, and His righteousness.  We must put Him first... before everything and everyone. 

Mat 22:37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

It is when we get serious and honest before God to live as He says that by His Spirit in us and thru us we can sin less.  We will mess up here and there but He is Merciful and Faithful.  If we confess our sin He will forgive us.  but we should strive to live a life of HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD. 

sin is very toxic.  one sin cause Adam and eve to loose constant fellowship with God and bring curse upon themselves, their offspring which includes myself and you the reader and even the whole world, one bowl of soup cost Esau his birthright, one lie cost Ananias and Sapphira.  One sin can cost us.  One outburst of anger,  just one statement.  We need to take sin serious.  Jesus Christ was crucified to pay for our sins.  Bloodshed of the innocent.  God would not have done all that just to leave us helpless to sin.  He wants us to live Holy to Him.  If it was not important to Him Jesus would not have died on the cross.  If we go to Him seeking to live better, He will Help us. 

I am reminded of the song Chainbreaker, by Zach Williams.

God is all about breaking chains and setting the captives free.  He desires us to be free from the bonds of sin, which brings death.  God gives life. 

 

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u are stop on, i agree with everything u said, we will never be perfect but can work on our imperfections

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When you understand that all of your sins are forgiven and you are free to do whatever you want, it’s a funny thing—- you don’t WANT to sin anymore. It takes a “ heart transplant” to understand this.Dont adopt this freedom lifestyle unless you have had the operation that only God can perform.

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12 hours ago, noblenut said:

Christians seem to be of the mindset that it is impossible to keep from sin, but the scriptures tell us to do just that, has God set us an impossible task or are we enabled by him and given what we need to do just that

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If you are referring to voluntary sins/evil-works/Law-breaking, then the answer is yes, ie it is possible for anyone to keep from sin or evil-doing or lawlessness, whether Christians or non-Christians(= Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, etc). Some "Christians" may behave even worse than non-Christians wrt sins/evil-works/Law-breaking.

If you are referring to involuntary sins-in-the-heart or sinful/evil/satanic thoughts, then the answer is no, ie it is impossible for anyone to keep from such sin. Such is our inherited Adam's Original Sin that will be sending everyone of us to hell when we die.(MATTHEW.5:27-30, ROMANS.3:23)

To be saved from hell, people need to rely solely on faith in Jesus Christ, and not on their good works of keeping from sin or keeping the Law because their inherited Adam's Original Sin has to be atoned for.(GALATIANS.2:16-17, ROMANS.5:12, HEBREWS.9:22, LEVITICUS.17:11) .......

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MATTHEW.19:16-22 (NKJV) Jesus Counsels the Rich Young Ruler

16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

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ROMANS.2:1-16 God’s Righteous Judgment

2 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. 3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

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How much sin can a person have and still make ?

If the Lord  is taking our heart to heaven  and I am still a sinner , I will also be a sinner in heaven.

How pure does a heart has to be before it goes to heaven ?

So does all good sinners go to heaven ?

Is God saying "oh do the best you can I will fix it up here"

I thought that is why God sent Jesus to fix it when he came down here to help us get the victory over a sinful life.

He also gave us power through the Holy Spirit to overcome.

For most believers, sinners goes to heaven, because they never met anybody living above sin, so that is why it must be so. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Bible_Gazer said:

How much sin can a person have and still make ?

If the Lord  is taking our heart to heaven  and I am still a sinner , I will also be a sinner in heaven.

How pure does a heart has to be before it goes to heaven ?

So does all good sinners go to heaven ?

Is God saying "oh do the best you can I will fix it up here"

I thought that is why God sent Jesus to fix it when he came down here to help us get the victory over a sinful life.

He also gave us power through the Holy Spirit to overcome.

For most believers, sinners goes to heaven, because they never met anybody living above sin, so that is why it must be so. 

 

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Sin has consequences.

For inherited Adam's Original Sin, the consequence is eternal spiritual separation from God or being bound for hell when one dies.(GENESIS.2:17 & 3:14-19, ROMANS.5:12) The sacrifice of Jesus Christ atoned for this inherited and unintentional sin = believers are saved from hell.

For willful or intentional sins/evil-works/Law-breaking, the consequences are being cursed/judged/punished by God, eg with calamities, terrors, sickness, loss, depression, etc.(DEUT.28:15, 1COR.11:30 & 5:5, 1JOHN.5:16-17, ROMANS.2:5-10) But God/Jesus has the authority and discretion to remove such curses, eg healing and exorcism, King David and Paul were spared their immediate lives for committing murder. Normally, God just allow the law to run its course, eg convicted murderers are executed, convicted robbers/rapists are jailed and traffic offenders are fined. 

The above 2 sins should be looked at differently, eg even though the convicted Jewish robber who was crucified next to Jesus at LUKE.23:43 had to suffer and die young for his sin of robbery, he was still saved from hell through his repentance and belief in Jesus Christ.

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1 hour ago, discipler777 said:

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Sin has consequences.

For inherited Adam's Original Sin, the consequence is eternal spiritual separation from God or being bound for hell when one dies.(GENESIS.2:17 & 3:14-19, ROMANS.5:12) The sacrifice of Jesus Christ atoned for this inherited and unintentional sin = believers are saved from hell.

For willful or intentional sins/evil-works/Law-breaking, the consequences are being cursed/judged/punished by God, eg with calamities, terrors, sickness, loss, depression, etc.(DEUT.28:15, 1COR.11:30 & 5:5, 1JOHN.5:16-17, ROMANS.2:5-10) But God/Jesus has the authority and discretion to remove such curses, eg healing and exorcism, King David and Paul were spared their immediate lives for committing murder. Normally, God just allow the law to run its course, eg convicted murderers are executed, convicted robbers/rapists are jailed and traffic offenders are fined. 

The above 2 sins should be looked at differently, eg even though the convicted Jewish robber who was crucified next to Jesus at LUKE.23:43 had to suffer and die young for his sin of robbery, he was still saved from hell through his repentance and belief in Jesus Christ.

Under the OT before Jesus came the OT saints had laws. OT Saints were charged for their own sins they committed. They had a choice to do right but they were weak in the flesh. No power in the laws to live above sin. Till Jesus came. They went to the grave because they came short of the promise, as mentioned in Hebrews 11.  The death penalty was passed on same as Adam. We sin we die as Adam did. OT Saints had a resurrection coming for them.

Adam didn't have a sin nature yet he broke the law of God because of his own free will desire.

So can we now thru Jesus Christ control our desire in our heart ? If not, what did Jesus do that made it different from the OT saints, he gave us power so we can become perfect, the Mosaic Law couldn't do this.  Heb. 10:1

 

 

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For those who believe in sinless perfection in Christians.....what do you call the bad things you do from time to time?  The bad thoughts you have from time to time?  The prideful moments?  Jealousies?  Scorn?  The road rage?  The little white lies [which are the same as whoppers]?

What do you call those things?

 

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2 hours ago, Jayne said:

For those who believe in sinless perfection in Christians.....what do you call the bad things you do from time to time?  The bad thoughts you have from time to time?  The prideful moments?  Jealousies?  Scorn?  The road rage?  The little white lies [which are the same as whoppers]?

What do you call those things?

 

Those are sinful stuff that is not allowed in our life.  Can't take that kind of stuff to heaven with us, from what I read in the bible. 

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