Debp Posted March 4, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,023 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,341 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,381 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Online Share Posted March 4, 2019 Would appreciate some feedback on this topic. Bernie Sanders is a Socialist. We have seen what has happened to Venezuela which has had a Socialistic government since 1999. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted March 4, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) Sorry but I am with Bernie! You all can think of me what you want. But I like the ideal of health care for all. Anyway, if I can find the time I will post my reasons for supporting Bernie Sanders. (In new thread I will not hijack this one) Edited March 4, 2019 by LadyKay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zemke Posted March 4, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,028 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 451 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/24/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) What Bernie proposes can only be attained through a strong market economy and a realistic medical business, it's a business like no other. There are many problems to work out but socialism won't solve them. We have a wide chasm between ideology and someone needs to be sensible. Bernie will never achieve what he and many others want with socialism. We need a political change in Washington I agree, we need a sensible health care business I agree, we need to take care of our poor I agree, we need to better our education system I agree. I just don't agree with how Bernie wants to solve the problems. It will never work and will be a disaster. As would the green new deal. Impossible technologically, economically, and physically workforce wise. It isn't needed to boot. It's like an ancient emperor invoking control over all things to build the glorious city. It's really insane. They have no intention, it's just politics, I would hope or they really are insane. Personally, he reminds me of a few people I knew in college that have yet to start critically thinking about their activism. The same mantra over and over. I've seen businesses turn to chaos until finally, the activist does something stupid enough to be fired without the ability to sue. Like, hit the manager, which actually happened. Every time this activism gains strength chaos ensues. Historically the only success out of it has been building back a market economy that was dying. This is the legacy of the Nordic countries we consider to be socialist. Their saviour economically has been capitalism. But to add because this is a Christian board. Any system would have a shot of working far better if the society was monotheistic with a strong Judeo-Christian influence. As we have become post-Christian our problems have been growing with increased velocity. Edited March 4, 2019 by Zemke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted March 4, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 903 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1952 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Bernie voted for infanticide through birth. That alone makes him unacceptable for ANY Christian. For liberal women, though, it doesn't matter, because nothing a Democrat or socialist can do is too awful for them to walk away. There's no bottom to their depravity. And if that causes me to be banned here, so be it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncran Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,246 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/16/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2019 The u.s govt has failed to take care of vets ,no on Medicare for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zemke Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,028 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 451 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/24/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 hours ago, jasoncran said: The u.s govt has failed to take care of vets ,no on Medicare for all Hows the new law working out allowing private facilities to deal with vets that they passed last June? Many naysayers at the time but if it was a bust I'm sure the press would be all over it so have you heard anything? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncran Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,246 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/16/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Zemke said: Hows the new law working out allowing private facilities to deal with vets that they passed last June? Many naysayers at the time but if it was a bust I'm sure the press would be all over it so have you heard anything? I have not used the va.i can but I have not heard from those that do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,023 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,341 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,381 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Online Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Zemke said: Hows the new law working out allowing private facilities to deal with vets that they passed last June? Many naysayers at the time but if it was a bust I'm sure the press would be all over it so have you heard anything? Great idea....my uncle is a Viet Nam veteran and neglected his health care because of the continual frustration of dealing with the Veteran's hospitals. You are right, if the new law wasn't working, it would be all over the news. So it must be doing ok. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/us/politics/veterans-health-care.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncran Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,246 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/16/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Debp said: Great idea....my uncle is a Viet Nam veteran and neglected his health care because of the continual frustration of dealing with the Veteran's hospitals. You are right, if the new law wasn't working, it would be all over the news. So it must be doing ok. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/us/politics/veterans-health-care.html Too early to tell and its only for vets who live more then 50 miles to a va hospital, and don't have transportation to it.my county has buses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,023 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,341 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,381 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Online Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Debp said: Great idea....my uncle is a Viet Nam veteran and neglected his health care because of the continual frustration of dealing with the Veteran's hospitals. You are right, if the new law wasn't working, it would be all over the news. So it must be doing ok. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/us/politics/veterans-health-care.html 8 hours ago, jasoncran said: Too early to tell and its only for vets who live more then 50 miles to a va hospital, and don't have transportation to it.my county has buses. Please read the article in the link I posted above. It says the Trump administration has amended it to veterans that can prove they have at least a 30 minute drive. The administration felt this helps veterans better than going by the miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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