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On 7/8/2019 at 4:15 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

So you beliwe jerusalem who Christ said is responsible for all the rigteous blood shed upon the earth is safe but you believe Rome who no prophet has ever testified against is guilty.

Interesting.

What I said is what God's Word says, the Word is God.  Believe in the Word of God, the source of Truth.  The Word says: Here is the mind which has wisdom. The 7 heads are 7 mountains, on which the WOMAN sits (the Great Whore -the Roman Catholic Church). The Word of God says yet: I will tell you the hidden MEANING of the WOMAN and of the FIRST Beast with 7 heads and 10 horns that carries her (the Great Whore)her. 

The FIRST Beast along with the 10 kings who have not yet received the kingdombut they will receive power as kings for one hour along with the FIRST Beast (Revelation 17:v. 12-13) , and they (the 10 kings) have one mind, and they - the 10 kings - hand over their Power and Authority to the FIRST Beast, in other words, they will give to the FIRST Beast Power, and the Throne, and Great Authority -Revelation 13:v.2.

The Word of God says more the follow things:

Here is the mind which has wisdom.  There are 7 kings: 5 are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come - the last Pope - and when he - the last Pope - comes, he must remain only a little while or for a short space, i.e. 42 month or 1,260 days  (Revelation 13:v.5) , that is the FIRST period of the beginning of the END of all things, inclusive the beginning of the END of the Dispensation of  Grace, the New Testament, as also it was, by comparison, the END of the Old Testament, for all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.     The Kingdom of God is the next Dispensation. 

Following the end of the first 42 month period, will established the Abomination of Desolation for the second 42-month period, the 10 horns - 10 kings - which will be along with the FIRST Beast, these will hate the WOMAN - the Great Whore, the Roman Catholic Church - and will make her desolate and naked and will burn her with fire (REVELATION 17:v.16-17), because God Almighty has put in their hearts to fulfil his will, it until His words be fulfilled.  There will not be how to escape of the righteous Judgment of God.  

It's it.  

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7 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Of course there is....HE'S A MAN !! {Little} vs. the other 6 Beasts who were Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome {Huge Nation Beasts}.

So he is thus called a Little Horn and shown as such. The reign will be ONLY 42 Months also, vs. the other Beasts who ruled for years and years. 

The king of the north destroys most of the nations you just posted.

Oh what desolation 1 nuclear warhead can cause.Donald Trump has control of 6800 nuclear warheads.Theres nothing little about the king of the north.

https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-36.htm

Exactly who are you saying shall exalt themself above the commander in chief of the United States armed forces?

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5 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

What I said is what God's Word says, the Word is God.  Believe in the Word of God, the source of Truth.  The Word says: Here is the mind which has wisdom. The 7 heads are 7 mountains, on which the WOMAN sits (the Great Whore -the Roman Catholic Church). The Word of God says yet: I will tell you the hidden MEANING of the WOMAN and of the FIRST Beast with 7 heads and 10 horns that carries her (the Great Whore)her. 

The FIRST Beast along with the 10 kings who have not yet received the kingdombut they will receive power as kings for one hour along with the FIRST Beast (Revelation 17:v. 12-13) , and they (the 10 kings) have one mind, and they - the 10 kings - hand over their Power and Authority to the FIRST Beast, in other words, they will give to the FIRST Beast Power, and the Throne, and Great Authority -Revelation 13:v.2.

The Word of God says more the follow things:

Here is the mind which has wisdom.  There are 7 kings: 5 are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come - the last Pope - and when he - the last Pope - comes, he must remain only a little while or for a short space, i.e. 42 month or 1,260 days  (Revelation 13:v.5) , that is the FIRST period of the beginning of the END of all things, inclusive the beginning of the END of the Dispensation of  Grace, the New Testament, as also it was, by comparison, the END of the Old Testament, for all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.     The Kingdom of God is the next Dispensation. 

Following the end of the first 42 month period, will established the Abomination of Desolation for the second 42-month period, the 10 horns - 10 kings - which will be along with the FIRST Beast, these will hate the WOMAN - the Great Whore, the Roman Catholic Church - and will make her desolate and naked and will burn her with fire (REVELATION 17:v.16-17), because God Almighty has put in their hearts to fulfil his will, it until His words be fulfilled.  There will not be how to escape of the righteous Judgment of God.  

It's it.  

The word of God does not say the Roman catholic church.

Unless you are saying your word is the word of God.

Are you insisting your word is the word of God?

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10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The king of the north destroys most of the nations you just posted.

Oh what desolation 1 nuclear warhead can cause.Donald Trump has control of 6800 nuclear warheads.Theres nothing little about the king of the north.

https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-36.htm

Exactly who are you saying shall exalt themself above the commander in chief of the United States armed forces?

Each successive Kingdom is INFERIOR METAL, the last Kingdom is so inferior its clay and iron mixed. He's a little Horn mainly because he's a MAN who never passes his Kingdom on or takes it from another. He's the only BEAST to both Arise and Fall. 

The Anti-Christ doesn't arise from the USA, the bible is explicit, hes born in Greece, as a Turk {Assyrian} and comes to power in the E.U. 

All this Donald Trump stuff is just as bad as the Obama stuff. 

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6 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

Each successive Kingdom is INFERIOR METAL, the last Kingdom is so inferior its clay and iron mixed. Hes a little Horn manly because hes a MAN who never passes his Kingdom on or takes it from another. Hes the only BEAST to both Arise and Fall. 

The Anti-Christ doesn't arise from the USA, the bible is explicit, hes born in Greece, as a Turk {Assyrian} and comes to power in the E.U. 

All this Donald Trump stuff is just as bad as the Obama stuff. 

What Donald Trump is,is the most powerful man in the world.Its not made up.

Now believing a man in greece is the most powerful man in the world is a fairy tale.Greece is a thing of the past that will never regain it former glory.It does not have the resources or the will.

As for Donald Trump.He is comander in chief of the most powerful military in the world andhe is fulfilling his destiny as the blind watch on.

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9 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

What Donald Trump is,is the most powerful man in the world.Its not made up.

Now believing a man in greece is the most powerful man in the world is a fairy tale.Greece is a thing of the past that will never regain it former glory.It does not have the resources or the will.

As for Donald Trump.He is comander in chief of the most powerful military in the world andhe is fulfilling his destiny as the blind watch on.

You either can't see what is simple or you are being overtly pretensive brother. You have to understand that one can be the E.U. President and be born anywhere on the E.U. right ? A man {SUPPOSEDLY} born in Hawaii was the President of the USA. He thus had the birthright to be the U.S. President. Likewise a man born in Greece can be the E.U. President. It's not really that complex brother. 

You worry too much about what you FEEL brother, I follow the scriptures that tell me where he will be born and come unto power. You do realize the Rapture is going to shake the equilibrium of the worlds leadership right ? Can you imagine the USA with all our Christian brothers not on earth anymore ?

We will be a nation of juvenile delinquents and numbskulls. The scriptures tell us where he's from. If we follow the word of God and we can't go wrong.

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5 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

You either can't see what is simple or you are being overtly pretensive brother. You have to understand that one can be the E.U. President and be born anywhere on the E.U. right ? A man {SUPPOSEDLY} born in Hawaii was the President of the USA. He thus had the birthright to be the U.S. President. Likewise a man born in Greece can be the E.U. President. It's not really that complex brother. 

You worry too much about what you FEEL brother, I follow the scriptures that tell me where he will be born and come unto power. You do realize the Rapture is going to shake the equilibrium of the worlds leadership right ? Can you imagine the USA with all our Christian brothers not on earth anymore ?

We will be a nation of juvenile delinquents and numbskulls. The scriptures tell us where he's from. If we follow the word of God and we can't go wrong.

Actually the word ofGod says the king of the north is from the north.The word of God doesnt say greece or tge EU.Dont confuse your word with Gods word.

In the meantime while your waiting for someone in the EU to exalt himself above all,Donald Trump will continue to exalt and magnify himself above all.And he will continue his policies toward the middle east where the EU has no,power to do anything .

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3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Actually the word ofGod says the king of the north is from the north.The word of God doesnt say greece or tge EU.Dont confuse your word with Gods word.

In the meantime while your waiting for someone in the EU to exalt himself above all,Donald Trump will continue to exalt and magnify himself above all.And he will continue his policies toward the middle east where the EU has no,power to do anything .

The Birthplace of the Anti-Christ Revealed

Isaiah says the Anti-Christ is an Assyrian. The Anti-Christ is said to come to power via the fourth beast in the last days per Daniel Chapter Seven. The Anti-Christ is also said to arise out of the Grecian empire in the last days, so how do we reconcile these different understandings?

This is established fairly easily, Daniel did say the understandings would be bound up until the end. The Anti-Christ in Daniel chapters seven and eight is shown, if read properly, to arise out of two kingdoms at once, but how can this be ?

Daniel chapter seven is fairly straightforward, we understand this to be about the four beast systems, the fourth beast is where the little horn (Anti-Christ) will arise out of, most everyone understands the fourth beast to have been Rome, but in the last days/end times this has to be the European Union. Or some Rome Centric kingdom that comes together shortly, I thinks it the E.U. but there might still be some shaking of the E.U. in its current form.

Daniel chapter eight is explained in detail by Gabriel the angel, it is the he goat (Alexander the Great) conquering Persia (the Ram) and Gabriel interpreted this dream for Daniel.

Daniel 8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

We should note, this is speaking of the end time, it is not speaking of Antiochus who came along before Jesus was even born. The word Indignation means: (Hebrew word za'am meaning God's Fury at Sin) so at the Last End of Indignation means right before God's Judgment of Sin/Vials or Bowls of God's Wrath (Revelation/Seven Vials of Wrath).

(Gabriel's Interpretation) Daniel 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. 21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. 22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. (The Four Generals that stood up in Alexander's stead were Ptolemy , Seleucus , Cassander and Lysimachus.)

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

This is clearly speaking about the end times/last days when the sins have come full/ bowls of God's wrath, a fierce king shall arise out of one of the four kingdoms that stood up in Alexander the Great's stead, speaking dark sentences (understanding riddles and conundrums) and he comes to power.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: (Satan gives him his Seat/Power) and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, (he claims to be God) and by peace shall destroy many {Through peace treaties he deceives many} he shall also stand up against the Prince (Jesus) of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Jesus destroys the Anti-Christ his kings and their armies without hand (with the Sword of the Spirit/Holy Spirit) by the countenance of his coming, Amen. This guy magnifies himself and says I am God !!

Now, so many people say chapter eight is about Antiochus, so I always feel the need to prove that this is about the end times, when God's wrath is come full. This is about the Little Horn/Anti-Christ. And he arises out of their kingdom in the last days, so in essence he arises out of one of the Four Generals kingdoms in the last days, but which one ? Well, since the Anti-Christ arises out of the fourth beast also, then this other Kingdom has to lie within the borders of the European Union. Only Cassander's kingdom of Greece (Macedonia) is in the European Union. The "Assyrian" arising from Greece would be very, very possible since Greece shares a common border with Turkey, and many, many Turks live in Greece, so the Assyrian Anti-Christ is born in Greece, and comes to power in Greece, then in the European Union. But what does John say in Revelation about the Beast that arises out of the Sea ? 

Rev. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The Main body is described by John as like a leopard !!

Put it all together, the "Assyrian" Anti-Christ is born in Greece, of Turkish parents or grandparents, he comes to power in the European Union.

This is where the Anti-Christ is from. It's pretty clear.

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On 7/3/2019 at 8:43 AM, Still Alive said:

He's just the only one bringing it up. I used to really be "into" this end times stuff back in the 80's and 90's. I used to take a strong position. Not any more. I believe that everybody has it wrong in one or many ways and when the events being discussed DO happen, we'll say, "Oh yeah. I see it now". 

Prophesy in the bible is usually a warning. It's not about predicting (or exposing) the  future. It's about proving God's word and giving us the information we need to understand events as they happen all around us. 

How many people alive at the time were interpreting scripture to describe the coming of the Messiah as Jesus' arrival and life actually unfolded. I submit that it was not one single person. Not one. 

Anyone who marries themself to specific positions on biblical prophesy regarding future events does so at their peril, IMO.

 

I really hate the Left Behind books and movies. IMO, I think they are not only dead wrong but present a false narrative that is going to harm a lot of people that find themselves living in the great tribulation. When you think you're gonna get "raptured" before all hell breaks loose, and then you aren't, well, that could cause an emotional/intellectual challenge.

You're very correct and I've been guilty of misusing prophecy myself. Our Bible is roughly 25 - 33% prophetic, depending on whom you subscribe to. If that much of the Bible is devoted to prophecy, it must be extremely important. I believe the reasons prophecy is given is: so when it comes to pass, we know it was from the Lord, came from the Lord, and He is the Alpha and Omega; the first and the last.

So His children are not ignorant of the things coming and not surprised; we're commanded to watch and pray. And lastly 2 Peter 1:20; I would translate; my view of what is says and how it will come about is most likely not the correct one. It's challenging not to put the cart before the horse watching these end time events unfold. 

2 Peter 1:20 (KJV) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

I suspect by your last paragraph you're not pre-tribulation? On that everyone is set in their own belief. You may or may not believe in the "doctrine of imminency", that Christ could return at any moment for His bride? The Apostle Paul believed and thought it possible in his life time when he used the plural of "We", not them or those.

1 Corinthians 15:51 (KJV) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

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5 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The Birthplace of the Anti-Christ Revealed

Isaiah says the Anti-Christ is an Assyrian. The Anti-Christ is said to come to power via the fourth beast in the last days per Daniel Chapter Seven. The Anti-Christ is also said to arise out of the Grecian empire in the last days, so how do we reconcile these different understandings?

This is established fairly easily, Daniel did say the understandings would be bound up until the end. The Anti-Christ in Daniel chapters seven and eight is shown, if read properly, to arise out of two kingdoms at once, but how can this be ?

Daniel chapter seven is fairly straightforward, we understand this to be about the four beast systems, the fourth beast is where the little horn (Anti-Christ) will arise out of, most everyone understands the fourth beast to have been Rome, but in the last days/end times this has to be the European Union. Or some Rome Centric kingdom that comes together shortly, I thinks it the E.U. but there might still be some shaking of the E.U. in its current form.

Daniel chapter eight is explained in detail by Gabriel the angel, it is the he goat (Alexander the Great) conquering Persia (the Ram) and Gabriel interpreted this dream for Daniel.

Daniel 8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

We should note, this is speaking of the end time, it is not speaking of Antiochus who came along before Jesus was even born. The word Indignation means: (Hebrew word za'am meaning God's Fury at Sin) so at the Last End of Indignation means right before God's Judgment of Sin/Vials or Bowls of God's Wrath (Revelation/Seven Vials of Wrath).

(Gabriel's Interpretation) Daniel 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. 21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. 22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. (The Four Generals that stood up in Alexander's stead were Ptolemy , Seleucus , Cassander and Lysimachus.)

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

This is clearly speaking about the end times/last days when the sins have come full/ bowls of God's wrath, a fierce king shall arise out of one of the four kingdoms that stood up in Alexander the Great's stead, speaking dark sentences (understanding riddles and conundrums) and he comes to power.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: (Satan gives him his Seat/Power) and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, (he claims to be God) and by peace shall destroy many {Through peace treaties he deceives many} he shall also stand up against the Prince (Jesus) of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Jesus destroys the Anti-Christ his kings and their armies without hand (with the Sword of the Spirit/Holy Spirit) by the countenance of his coming, Amen. This guy magnifies himself and says I am God !!

Now, so many people say chapter eight is about Antiochus, so I always feel the need to prove that this is about the end times, when God's wrath is come full. This is about the Little Horn/Anti-Christ. And he arises out of their kingdom in the last days, so in essence he arises out of one of the Four Generals kingdoms in the last days, but which one ? Well, since the Anti-Christ arises out of the fourth beast also, then this other Kingdom has to lie within the borders of the European Union. Only Cassander's kingdom of Greece (Macedonia) is in the European Union. The "Assyrian" arising from Greece would be very, very possible since Greece shares a common border with Turkey, and many, many Turks live in Greece, so the Assyrian Anti-Christ is born in Greece, and comes to power in Greece, then in the European Union. But what does John say in Revelation about the Beast that arises out of the Sea ? 

Rev. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The Main body is described by John as like a leopard !!

Put it all together, the "Assyrian" Anti-Christ is born in Greece, of Turkish parents or grandparents, he comes to power in the European Union.

This is where the Anti-Christ is from. It's pretty clear.

The king of the north has had a couple wars with assyria (Iraq)already while you slept.

When the king of the south(Assyria) attacks the king of the north in thier next war ,the king of the north will destroy Assyria.

The Assrian(king of the south aka the beast) will be destroyed at that time.Then there shall be a highway from Assyria to Egypt.

 

The north is not destroyed during armegeddon nor was that land promised to Abrahams seed.

The land from the euphrates to the nile where the beast lives is destroyed and given to Abrahams seed.

This is the man,who destroys that land.

https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm

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