other one Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: Maybe you would capsulize that for me. I don't think so.... if find when things are capsulized people pay less attention to what's being said... capsulize is kind of what, but doesn't usually contain the why and it's the why that people need to agree or disagree with what's being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted December 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, other one said: I don't think so.... if find when things are capsulized people pay less attention to what's being said... capsulize is kind of what, but doesn't usually contain the why and it's the why that people need to agree or disagree with what's being discussed. It's 3000+ words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: It's 3000+ words. the subject is complicated... so you want me to spend the time condensing that into a short thing that you would fully understand and type it all up...… I don't think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, other one said: the subject is complicated... so you want me to spend the time condensing that into a short thing that you would fully understand and type it all up...… I don't think so... I already know it's wrong to tell a woman she can't talk in church, and it always was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: I already know it's wrong to tell a woman she can't talk in church, and it always was wrong. and that article will tell you why.... and when you have digested it all you can tell others or if you are busy or lazy like me just give them the URL LoL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, other one said: and that article will tell you why.... and when you have digested it all you can tell others I don't need 3000+ words to tell you why. I can do it in one sentence: It's wrong to tell a woman she can't speak in church because I wouldn't want anyone telling me I can't speak in church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: I don't need 3000+ words to tell you why. I can do it in one sentence: It's wrong to tell a woman she can't speak in church because I wouldn't want anyone telling me I can't speak in church. well, that's your reason, but was it Paul's…. I can tell you that there are people who come here to do not believe that women should speak in church.. and at least they should read that article... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, other one said: well, that's your reason, but was it Paul's…. Paul told women NOT to speak in church: [33] For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, [34] the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. [35] If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. [36] What! Did the word of God originate with you, or are you the only ones it has reached? I Cor 14:33-36 RSV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: Paul told women NOT to speak in church: [33] For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, [34] the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. [35] If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. [36] What! Did the word of God originate with you, or are you the only ones it has reached? I Cor 14:33-36 RSV Paul told what women not to speak in church? What location..... and why would he tell them that with so many women having leading rolls at other churches.... especially in Rome. There is something here that is deeper than surface speech.... Who is he speaking to, what is the situation there, and why would he take that viewpoint there when it was not in other places.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, other one said: Paul told what women not to speak in church? What location..... and why would he tell them that with so many women having leading rolls at other churches.... especially in Rome. There is something here that is deeper than surface speech.... Who is he speaking to, what is the situation there, and why would he take that viewpoint there when it was not in other places.... Paul said "the women." I don't see him specifying any particular group, so I have to assume he is speaking of all women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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