Frank Goad Posted December 20, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 55 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) Why in the king james bible do we call hell.Hades? Edited December 20, 2019 by Frank Goad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galleon Posted December 20, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 47 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 69 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted December 20, 2019 Across various languages and multiple translations over the years, the name has changed. Sheol is the Hebrew and what seems to be the most accurate name. Also called the grave, hell, hades, and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted December 21, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted December 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Frank Goad said: Why in the king james bible do we call hell.Hades? I don't know, but my own belief is that hell (or whatever you want to call it) is the trouble that comes into our lives when we sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted December 22, 2019 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,939 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 1:20 PM, johnthebaptist said: I don't know, but my own belief is that hell (or whatever you want to call it) is the trouble that comes into our lives when we sin. As you say, it's your belief but you're on shaky ground theologically and doctrinally. In Scripture hell is a place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 22, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,168 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,445 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 5:03 PM, Margo1945 said: I believe the latter are saved persons who turned to sin and never turned back aka never repented .. Not possible according to this verse 1 John 2:19 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us KJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 22, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,168 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,445 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Margo1945 said: this can be one way .. in the latter days, many will depart from the faith .. one cannot depart from something he/she was never part of, so such could include ones you cite and could, also, include those who were believers and saved but then departed and "threw away their gift of salvation" .. gifts must be accepted, kept, and taken proper care of and this includes the gift of salvation .. some never accept .. some do accept and keep and care for .. some accept but later, for whatever reason, throw the gift away .. some, later, retrieve the gift and try to restore it .. some never retrieve the gift .. the latter are in the lake of fire .. sinners who never repented aka turned back to God and changed their hearts back to God and His Will but, rather, continued in their own willful sinfulness by their own choice and doing, no one else's 2 Cor 1:22 22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts. KJV Eph 1:13 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, KJV Eph 4:30 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. KJV These verses are clear and are backers of John's statement... how long is this sealing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted December 22, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Michael37 said: As you say, it's your belief but you're on shaky ground theologically and doctrinally. In Scripture hell is a place. Read Matthew 4:17. Is heaven a place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 22, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 1:08 PM, Frank Goad said: Why in the king james bible do we call hell.Hades? She0l/hades is the temporary place for hell. Unbeliever's souls now go to hades. The permanent hell is not occupied yet but it will be when the unbelivers are judged in the Great White Throne judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted December 22, 2019 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,939 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: Read Matthew 4:17. Is heaven a place? Yes, so there is the place known as heaven which among other things is God's residence, and there is the kingdom of heaven which equates to the reign and dominion of God, very much manifest in the person of Christ, hence it being nigh or at hand. Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mat 6:9-10 (9) After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. (10) Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Have a good day, and night, my friend. Michael37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted December 22, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Michael37 said: Yes, so there is the place known as heaven which among other things is God's residence, and there is the kingdom of heaven which equates to the reign and dominion of God, very much manifest in the person of Christ, hence it being nigh or at hand. Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mat 6:9-10 (9) After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. (10) Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Have a good day, and night, my friend. Michael37. I believe you will find heaven is peace of mind, and peace of mind is the result of repentance of our sin. What good is heaven if we don't have peace of mind? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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