douggg Posted May 29, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 1. The 7 kings in Revelation 17:10 ...Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius ...Nero... lastly, the end times little horn. Who after being killed, brought back to life, to become king 8 the beast for the short space of 42 months. All of the Julio Claudian bloodline. Kings of the Roman Empire. 2. The little horn - 7th Julio Claudian bloodline king - leader of the EU. 3. The prince who shall come - the little horn, coming from the EU, following Gog/Magog 4. Anointed the King of Israel, thought to be messiah, the Antichrist by the false prophet. The 7 years begin. 5. Reveals himself as the man of sin, and not the messiah after all. Near the middle of the 7 years. 6. Is killed, brought back to life, as the beast, 8th Julio Claudian bloodline king - dictator of the EU. Rules unimpeded for 42 months, until the end of the 7 years Edited May 29, 2020 by douggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted May 29, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 29, 2020 6 hours ago, douggg said: 1. The 7 kings in Revelation 17:10 ...Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius ...Nero... lastly, the end times little horn. Who after being killed, brought back to life, to become king 8 the beast for the short space of 42 months. All of the Julio Claudian bloodline. Kings of the Roman Empire. 2. The little horn - 7th Julio Claudian bloodline king - leader of the EU They don't carry the whore of babylon /fake church of Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted May 29, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 hours ago, R. Hartono said: They don't carry the whore of babylon /fake church of Christianity. "whore of babylon" is not a term found in the bible. And no the the 7 kings are not the scarlet colored beast in Revelation 17:3, that the woman is riding. She is considered a whore. And on her head was an inscription written, Mystery Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth. Babylon the Great is the name for the mystical kingdom of Satan and his angels. Which spawned all of the false religons on the earth - called harlots and abominations of the earth. The specific whore riding the scarlet colored beast, herself is the Vatican. All of that is a separate topic from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted May 30, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2020 10 hours ago, douggg said: The specific whore riding the scarlet colored beast, herself is the Vatican. Thats correct n such Kings like Julius were not carrying her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,635 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,371 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 Rev 17:10 " And there ARE seven kings: five are fallen, and one IS, the other IS not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." In order the three verbs are: 'eisi', 'esti', 'erchomai' Definitions: 'eisi': "agree, are, be, were". 'esti': "are, belong, call, come, consist". 'erchomai': " to come, go" If the concept in Rev 17:10 meant 'existing now' I'm convinced 'on' would be the verb form as in Romans 13:1, ":the powers that be are ordained of God." Paul is speaking of the currently existing authorities. In Rev 17:10 'esti' is speaking to a king part of the ones from before, not an existing king at the time of John as in either Nero or Domitian. Another point is 'pipto' or 'are fallen. "Definition: to fall. Usage: I fall, fall under (as under condemnation), fall prostrate." It's not required this verb is past action and in fact it's a future aorist tense. The defintion is 'to fall' not 'has fallen'. There are 11 examples of 'fell' in Revelation; ten are the verb 'pipto', the same as 'are fallen' in Rev 17:10. In each of the 10 it's a present action of either worship or, as in 6:13 and 8:10, it's the future. So pipto is either present or future action in every case in the entire prophecy. So... The 7 kings are a group and 5 will fall. One belongs to the same group of 7 and the 7th is on the way and is short lived. Then the one that is the 8th and from the same group of 7 that must come from the pit and begin the reign of terror. As a matter of prophetic utterance I cannot think that a prophecy has elements of the past or present. I wouldn't be prophecy then, would it? It would either be history or current events. Since the idea in Rev 17 is the beast and the woman that rides it, and that is clearly future prophecy, I can't drop back to the Roman empire for truth or interpretation. Does it really make any sense to have past, present, and future in a 12 word fragment of prophecy? I don't think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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