steve morrow Posted July 14, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,045 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 368 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted July 14, 2020 IS THEOLOGY GODLY TITUS 1:1 paul a servant of GOD and an apostle of JESUS CHRIST according to the faith of GODS elect and the acknowledging of the --TRUTH WHICH IS AFTER GODLINESS-- 1 TIMOTHY 6:3 if any man teach otherwise and --CONSENT NOT TO WHOLESOME WORDS-- even the words of our LORD JESUS CHRIST and to the doctrine which is according to godliness --6:4-- HE IS PROUD -- knowing nothing but doting about questions and strifes of words whereof cometh envy strife railings evil surmisings --6:5-- perverse disputings --OF MEN OF CORRUPT MINDS-- and destitute of the truth supposing that gain is godliness 1 TIMOTHY 6:6 BUT GODLINESS WITH CONTENTMENT IS GREAT GAIN 1 TIMOTHY 2:1 I exhort therefore that first of all supplications prayers intercessions and giving of thanks be made for all men --2:2-- for kings and for all that are in authority that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in --IN ALL GODLINESS AND HONESTY-- LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted July 16, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,086 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 500 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 11:24 PM, branchesofHim said: We live in a world that is dominated by the devil in reasoning. Scripture teaches this. So if your IQ is based on "worldly reason" then you obviously are spiritually ignorant. Correct? No, one can have an high IQ in useful Knowledge of this world in general and so-called spiritual knowledge. Have you ever taken an IQ test? Do you know what is on them? All that matters is what one does with the knowledge of both worlds they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted July 16, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,086 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 500 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 7:58 AM, Alive said: Well--I reckon we will see, but I think he meant if that is where you place your emphasis---human reasoning, then you may miss the mark. Matthew 22:37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ If the human reasoning is to do evil, then they missed the mark or sinned which is missing the mark. If the human reasoning is to do good, there is not a problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted July 16, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,086 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 500 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 1:36 PM, missmuffet said: I don't know what my IQ is. Does it really matter? Don't worry about it each time I took one of those tests I keep getting dumber. Brian cells keep dying from playing the Core War game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted July 16, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,086 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 500 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/12/2020 at 5:06 PM, TheBlade said: God blesses those who are humble/meek, for they will inherit the whole earth. Great another mess I will have to clean up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_iain Posted July 16, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 39 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 24,675 Content Per Day: 5.76 Reputation: 20,399 Days Won: 161 Joined: 08/05/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/30/1985 Share Posted July 16, 2020 As far as IQ tests are concerned, they are probably the most misunderstood psychometric tools. They are not even intended to measure overall intelligence. They are practically useless when used by the general population. Just like medical tests would be useless for someone without medical knowledge. They measure cognitive abilities such as reasoning skills (which are often used in mathematics) and problem solving. As such, they are useful for assessing someones potential (which could influence career paths) and for identifying certain kinds of disabilities. Intelligence is a concept that has never been perfectly defined. So no measuring tool is going to tell you how clever someone is. I have met people who had intellectual disabilities, who have at times shown more intelligence than many people who seem clever. There is nothing wrong with being intelligence or with learning. It is only wrong when it leads to pride or idolatry. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted July 17, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.55 Reputation: 3,522 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2020 23 hours ago, Henry_iain said: As far as IQ tests are concerned, they are probably the most misunderstood psychometric tools. They are not even intended to measure overall intelligence. They are practically useless when used by the general population. Just like medical tests would be useless for someone without medical knowledge. They measure cognitive abilities such as reasoning skills (which are often used in mathematics) and problem solving. As such, they are useful for assessing someones potential (which could influence career paths) and for identifying certain kinds of disabilities. Intelligence is a concept that has never been perfectly defined. So no measuring tool is going to tell you how clever someone is. I have met people who had intellectual disabilities, who have at times shown more intelligence than many people who seem clever. There is nothing wrong with being intelligence or with learning. It is only wrong when it leads to pride or idolatry. When I was at school, in my mid teens (late 1970s), they changed the name of the tests to V.R.Q. tests (Verbal Reasoning Quotient), but it didn't last long and they were soon back to I.Q. tests. They test for certain kinds of reasoning and problem solving ability but they do not test for emotional intelligence, musical talent, or general artistic talent, which are other kinds of intelligence. They also do not test for common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branchesofHim Posted July 27, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 211 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,463 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 759 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/23/1966 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 9:03 AM, Josheb said: There is no warrant for throwing theology or those who study it under the bus, especially not with inherent or unwarranted disdain. Doing so evidences the problem. Your theological knowledge is apparent. No bus or disdain here. Thanks for the input. Shalom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branchesofHim Posted July 27, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 211 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,463 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 759 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/23/1966 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/16/2020 at 3:51 PM, Daniel Marsh said: No, one can have an high IQ in useful Knowledge of this world in general and so-called spiritual knowledge. I was not being critical of anyone with a high IQ. Shalom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Dawn Posted August 8, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 277 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/13/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/23/1967 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Trying to apply Scripture to test scores is silly. Let the Bible interpret the Bible. Being good at problem solving, applied math, spatial relationships, etc...has absolutely nothing at all to do with "worldly thinking." If Shape A is has the same surface area as Shape B...that is simply fact, not moral or immoral....and certainly not sacred or secular. The testing simply seeks to measure ones ability to correctly determine which given shapes fulfill a stated relationship...or which symbol should be next in an established pattern, etc... This has nothing to do with anything spiritual beyond God knitting us together in the womb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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