H1N1 vaccine

[Marathoner]

Accurate information regarding coronaviruses and viruses in general would be most helpful. In the simplest of terms a virus is a submicroscopic organism incapable of replicating itself. A virus requires a host cell in order to accomplish this task and therein is the mechanism by which a virus eventually damages and potentially destroys cells. It's a large part of how a viral infection makes us sick.

Viruses don't produce toxins but certain strains (such as the ebola viruses) can import genetic information which causes cells to produce them, an example of another way in which a viral infection can potentially harm us. In the case of ebola, a toxin called Delta-Peptide is produced by host cells which causes the membrane of cells to become more permeable. This is fatal to affected cells. 

The protein envelope of a virus hosts specialized protein structures which enable the organism to attach itself to a cell and penetrate the cell membrane. The virus imports genetic material into the cell and thus the cell becomes a "virus factory," producing new viruses. COVID-19, caused by a coronavirus strain, is an RNA-type virus and so it is produced in the cytoplasm of our cells. It's important to understand that viruses attack all kinds of cells: bacteria, plant cells, and animal cells among them. Yes, even bacteria are subject to viral infections. Because of this it's feasible for viruses which infect plants or animals to mutate and "make the leap" to us.  Such events occur in nature without human intervention/manipulation.

The coronavirus was first discovered in the laboratory in 1964; since that time approximately 100 unique iterations of this virus type have been identified. Many cause the common cold but some, like SARS, MERS and now COVID-19, are mutations which have proven fatal to animals and humans. The coronavirus which causes COVID-19 is properly known as SARS-CoV-2 and is closely related to the coronavirus which causes Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), SARS-CoV. 

There's no evidence which suggests the agent responsible for COVID-19 is a bioengineered virus.  

 

Edited August 3, 2020 by Marathoner

[Guest theElect777]

2 hours ago, other one said:

don't see how that relates....    if we had 50,000 people getting bit every day, i'd be really afraid to go about.

Thought you were following along a certain conversation, my bad.   We were discussing covid being a bio-weapon.  Pit Viper venom would be the perfect bio-weapon because it does exactly the same thing as covid is doing.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Accurate information regarding coronaviruses and viruses in general would be most helpful. In the simplest of terms a virus is a submicroscopic organism incapable of replicating itself. A virus requires a host cell in order to accomplish this task and therein is the mechanism by which a virus eventually damages and potentially destroys cells. It's a large part of how a viral infection makes us sick.

Viruses don't produce toxins but certain strains (such as the ebola viruses) can import genetic information which causes cells to produce them, an example of another way in which a viral infection can potentially harm us. In the case of ebola, a toxin called Delta-Peptide is produced by host cells which causes the membrane of cells to become more permeable. This is fatal to affected cells. 

The protein envelope of a virus hosts specialized protein structures which enable the organism to attach itself to a cell and penetrate the cell membrane. The virus imports genetic material into the cell and thus the cell becomes a "virus factory," producing new viruses. COVID-19, a coronavirus strain, is an RNA-type virus and so it is produced in the cytoplasm of our cells. It's important to understand that viruses attack all kinds of cells: bacteria, plant cells, and animal cells among them. Yes, even bacteria are subject to viral infections. Because of this it's feasible for viruses which infect plants or animals to mutate and "make the leap" to us.  Such events occur in nature without human intervention/manipulation.

The coronavirus was first discovered in the laboratory in 1964; since that time approximately 100 unique iterations of this virus type have been identified. Many cause the common cold but some, like SARS, MERS and now COVID-19, are mutations which have proven fatal to animals and humans. The coronavirus which causes COVID-19 is properly known as SARS-CoV-2 and is closely related to the coronavirus which causes Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), SARS-CoV. 

There's no evidence which suggests COVID-19 is a bioengineered virus.  

 

It was manmade in a bioweapons lab in wuhan China 

[Gideon]

3 minutes ago, ChickenCoop said:

It was manmade in a bioweapons lab in wuhan China 

Can you show the evidence supporting  this? From all I have read from the medical professionals, with no bone to pick in the political process, they feel certain that it was not bioengineered. To make a statement as if it is a fact sounds more like an assumption, not a fact. 

blessings, 

Gids

[1to3]

24 minutes ago, Gideon said:

 From all I have read from the medical professionals, with no bone to pick in the political process, they feel certain that it was not bioengineered.

 

 

Can you show the evidence supporting  this?

[Alive]

1 minute ago, 1to3 said:

Can you show the evidence supporting  this?

So--this is interesting. The fact of the matter is that both positions are speculation. Aren't we better off talking about what we do actually 'know'?

Discussions about things we can only speculate about, can be an interesting exercise, but they cannot reach a clear resolution. If we keep that in mind, it will mitigate what is undesired.

:-)

[1to3]

1 minute ago, Alive said:

Aren't we better off talking about what we do actually 'know'?

OK what do you know?

 

2 minutes ago, Alive said:

So--this is interesting. The fact of the matter is that both positions are speculation.

 

 

If both sides are speculations than all we are talking about is speculative.

[Alive]

9 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

OK what do you know?

 

If both sides are speculations than all we are talking about is speculative.

We know that there is a virus that is making people sick and killing people.

Yes--that is my point--speculative.

[Marathoner]

47 minutes ago, ChickenCoop said:

It was manmade in a bioweapons lab in wuhan China 

It's not my intention to argue with nor dispute the beliefs of my brothers and sisters. I shared facts regarding viruses and some of the history of the coronaviruses in particular for those who are interested. If my memory serves the first evidence of infection by a coronavirus was discovered during the 1930's in a captive population of birds. The coronaviruses infect birds, mammals, and us equally. Cases of COVID-19 have been discovered in house cats.

[1to3]

On 7/30/2020 at 2:40 PM, missmuffet said:

How many people are going to get the flu vaccine this year? H1N1 kills just as many people as COVID-19 and is just as dangerous but for some reason people do not give this virus any importance. They have a vaccine for this virus unlike COVID-19 but many people do not get the vaccination. 

That is correct. And those who have received the HINI vaccine, many have fallen sick and some with chronic symptoms.

If you want to hear a true heart felt true story of a mother who lost one of her daughters to vaccination with hydrogel  and another who became ill aftyer receiving the H1N1 vaccines and now has narcolepsy

You can find the following title on youtube:

 

Julie's Story: Early, Covert Vaccine/Hydrogel Experimentation On My Daughter By Barb Wilson 7/30/20

 

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