Mike Mclees Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Marathoner said: To address the OP, the Lord never uttered a falsehood nor does God lie at any time. God is not like man. “God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?" (Numbers 23:19) "Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness, in the hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie, promised long ages ago, but at the proper time manifested, even His word, in the proclamation with which I was entrusted according to the commandment of God our Savior," (Titus 1:1-3) In the same way God, desiring even more to show to the heirs of the promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, interposed with an oath, so that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us. (Hebrews 6:17-18) By putting words into the mouths of others one commits falsehood, Mike McIees. Again, the pope of Rome never uttered what you claimed he said. How does one point to evil by engaging in an evil? I pray you'll consider what's been set before you, my friend. I don't understand any of you that want to play tit for tat with political correctness when it comes to same sex civil marriage. Who is a liar? Go into the scriptures and find where God should bless such unions. True God does not lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 15 hours ago, teddyv said: I have understood that gender reassignment is something that might happen at the end of a long road. Much like you have said. Could some one define gender reassignment. I hear the talk about the different types of perversion. Is one OK and the others not? All this stuff is of the world which we are not to be a part of. Is there any excuses for believers making any of this right because he did mean it a certain way. Will any of this stop the coming judgement Can the bride be of such a debate. And so it is with the great falling away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.90 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 23, 2020 Gender reassignment, at least as I understand it, is the treatment, including hormones and surgery to change ones gender. No one here is excusing any of these different matters. What many are objecting to is lumping them together or (un)intentionally confusing very different conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,291 Content Per Day: 7.10 Reputation: 13,315 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mike Mclees said: I don't understand any of you that want to play tit for tat with political correctness when it comes to same sex civil marriage. Who is a liar? Go into the scriptures and find where God should bless such unions. True God does not lie My friend, if you cannot discern the matter at hand after multiple explanations have been given then there's nothing else to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,291 Content Per Day: 7.10 Reputation: 13,315 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 23, 2020 There's a difference between this world and the kingdom of God. The world has its customs and conventions, many of which are counterfeits of what our Lord and God deems as acceptable; marriage is an example of this. That this world would counterfeit what God deems holy should come as no surprise seeing as how Satan is the ruler of this world. We know from God's words what marriage is: a man and a woman joined as one. We also know that God doesn't make mistakes, exposing transgenderism as an error born of this world ruled in darkness. The very notion that a person was born into the wrong gender is blasphemy born of a rebellious heart at odds with the Almighty. We are precisely who we should be, created as the Lord fashioned us, to include what some consider as disabilities. The example of the man born blind from the Gospel of John informs us of God's ways: His ways are not our ways nor are His thoughts our thoughts. The man was born blind so that the work of Christ might be displayed in him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leah777 Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Mike Mclees said: Could some one define gender reassignment. I hear the talk about the different types of perversion. Is one OK and the others not? All this stuff is of the world which we are not to be a part of. Is there any excuses for believers making any of this right because he did mean it a certain way. Will any of this stop the coming judgement Can the bride be of such a debate. And so it is with the great falling away gender reassignment is not perversion. It is correcting the few people on this earth whose gender and hormonal development is wrong, due to the inherent faultiness of imperfect genes. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR7 Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,907 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 614 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/06/1952 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 6:37 PM, leah777 said: He is accepting civil partnership. He is giving them approval. "Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them." (Romans 1:32) (KJV have pleasure in them that do them.) We are to take a stand for the word of God and the truth. We are to be a witness and a testimony for the truth. God made us black and white, male and female so we could be united not divided. People who struggle with this need to know the truth so they can do their best to deal with their issues. It is not our place to judge others. It is really none of our business. We can not give our approval to what they are doing. What is "civil" is up to the court to decide. The pope has no training in civil law. He should know the law we receive from Moses. All of Leviticus 18 deals with what relationships are forbidden. It is the duty of the Pope to teach Leviticus to people. We need to use this as a guide to live our live according to the word of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,291 Content Per Day: 7.10 Reputation: 13,315 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 23, 2020 I invite the reader to test what I write to see if it is of God. There is a time for everything under the sun so it's not always necessary to quote scripture. The words of God are inherent in what I write: We are to love everyone, withholding nothing good and worthwhile just as our Father in heaven withholds nothing good from us. Condemning our neighbor is to invite hot coals upon one's head for as the Lord Himself tells us, we shall be judged in the manner that we judge. The measure we use shall be returned to us when we stand before the Son of God and His angels. When we remember that our Father causes rain to fall upon the heads of both the righteous and the wicked, we are reminded of the riches of His unfathomable mercy and grace. How can one believe that God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten Son when we judge our neighbor harshly? By doing so we exalt ourselves above the Lord as the righteous judge. My views on marriage notwithstanding I am not about to condemn others --- even those caught up in this world --- for what they do or believe in. I love the sinner, not the sin, and I do not think of myself so highly that I hurl railing accusations at others, putting words into their mouths and twisting truth to suit the purpose of grumbling rebellion. Israel of old is an example to us... remember why an entire generation perished in the wilderness. Why are some so incensed at the sins of this world that they engage in grumbling? Making a show of indignation is not unlike making a spectacle of prayers and piety in public; those who engage in such things have already received their reward. The generation who grumbled against the Lord perished in the wilderness; they received a just reward for their lawlessness. The name of the Holy One is blasphemed on account of rebels who exalt themselves as judges of their neighbor. The world looks at them and says, "See? How are they any different from us? You who are perfect, save yourself!" 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR7 Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,907 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 614 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/06/1952 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Marathoner said: Condemning our neighbor No one is condemning anyone. We just do not give them approval. I personally do not want to help them untangle their mess. The consequences of that is their personal life is none of my business. When 6 police cars pull up to their house the police have to be trained to help the deal with whatever issues they are having but for me it is none of my business. Other then the little blip they put in the paper - a claim was made that a law was broken and the police were not able to substantiate that any laws were being violated. We vote for or support the mayor, the judges, the police, the people who write the laws. Our voice is heard when we go to vote. We do not approve of abortion, porn, same sex marriage. The time to take a stand for what we believe in is when we go to vote. We have to be careful what we expose our children to. "Do Not Cause Another to Stumble." (Romans 14:13) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leah777 Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 23, 2020 all this business about sex and reproduction quoted above, that men and women were created by God as compliments to one another for completeness and sexual reproduction. How does that fit in with Paul exhorting Christians to be celibate, unmarried as he was? The body is not just the outside. The mind, thoughts and hormones and feelings are also physical parts of the body. Separating the physical outside from the physical inside is not correct and false. Remember, transgender individuals are a tiny minority whose suffering has been hijacked by the homosexual 'christian' lobby for their own agenda. I do not agree that Christians can be practicing sexually active homosexuals. I do not agree that Christians can be in an adulterous relationship. But I can agree that judgement belongs to God, and we are commanded to love them as fellow humans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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