Lester Sumrall's Prophecy About America

[Paul James]

1 hour ago, WilliamL said:

Not much of a prophecy, because by the early 1990's such things were already being done.

At the time Lester Sumrall gave the prophecy (could be earlier - back in the 1980s) we didn't have all this Bethel, Hillsong, Kenny Copeland rubbish with their doctrines of devils and Hindu Kundalini stuff.  We didn't see TV soaps showing sex between males, and same sex marriage, nor were there the widespread legalised abortions.  Sumrall was a genuine Pentecostal who believed that the gifts of the Spirit were the way that the Holy Spirit worked in the church -not like the pretence we see in many churches today where people are saying that the Spirit is moving in the services, but without the gifts everything is actually done in the flesh according to man's programme and not God's.

[Revelation Man]

On 11/17/2020 at 2:48 AM, Paul James said:

In the early 1990s the evangelist Lester Sumrall had a prophecy for America.  He said that Americans will accept doctrines of devils and engage in occult worship.  This prophecy has now been fulfilled by Hillsong, Bethel, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen, Paula White and Bill Johnson.

Maybe he was talkin about you brother, anticipating you moving to the USA. That makes about as much sense as you trying to unjustly smear brothers you do not know. In the New Testament they called that the work of Satan (smearing brothers). 

Now, there are a few of those guys I do  not particularly care for, others I have never heard of, but where is your evidene? You bring ZERO evidence, just opinion, and tbh, this is not Christ like.

Edited November 19, 2020 by Revelation Man

[Paul James]

5 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

Maybe he was talkin about you brother, anticipating you moving to the USA. That makes about as much sense as you trying to unjustly smear brothers you do not know. In the New Testament they called that the work of Satan (smearing brothers). 

Now, there are a few of those guys I do  not particularly care for, others I have never heard of, but where is your evidene? You bring ZERO evidence, just opinion, and tbh, this is not Christ like.

You must be either a Bethel or Kenny Copeland disciple.  Okay... I get it.

[Revelation Man]

On 11/19/2020 at 3:26 PM, Paul James said:

You must be either a Bethel or Kenny Copeland disciple.  Okay... I get it.

Never heard of Bethel and never really listened to Copeland. I have been a preacher nigh 35 years. I know what the word says about smearing brothers i. e. backbiting. I understood you had no clue when you included people I do know who are of the Holy Spirit, however that's not my point, the point is you do not have one iota of a clue about any of these people in reality. 

What I find on these message boards in many cases is these "Message Board Warriors" don't even go to church in many cases. They are just Warriors on-line. I suggest before you make claims to follow biblical doctrine and make any such claim to a brothers face and do so with FACTS. 

Anyone that calls ANY Brother out without providing the proof(s) I will always call them out on here or anywhere else. Don't come against our brothers with smear tactics, at least make a claim, and better yet, do what the bible says, do it to the face of the brothers. 

Edited November 25, 2020 by Revelation Man

[Paul James]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

Never heard of Bethel and never really listened to Copeland. I have been a preacher nigh 35 years. I know what the word says about smearing brothers i. e. backbiting. I understood you gad no clue when included people I do know who is of the Holy Spirit, however that's not my point, the point is you do not have one iota of a clue about any of these people in reality. 

What I find on these message boards in many cases is these "Message Board Warriors" don't even go to church in many cases. They are just Warriors on-line. I suggest before you make claims toy follow biblical doctrine and make any such claim to a brothers face and do so with FACTS. 

Anyone that calls ANY Brother out without providing the proof(s) I will always call them out on here or anywhere. Don't come against our brothers with smear tactics, at least make a claim, and better yet, do what the bible says, do it to the face of the brothers. 

Warning people about false teachers and counterfeit Charismatic movements is not smearing or backbiting.  You want to read what Paul says about false believers, even actually naming them in some of his letters.   

The Bethel prophets predicted Trump will win the election, and one said it was going to be by a margin of 71% of the vote.  None of those prophecies came to pass, and the Scripture clearly indicates that such prophecies are false and that God did not speak to or send them. 

The Scripture says that the person who is spiritual judges all things but is judged of no man.   Paul clearly teaches that when people prophesy, others weigh the prophecies to see if they are true.  The Scripture also says that in the mouths of two or three witnesses a thing is established.  There are many more than three witnesses who can testify that the teachings of these false prophets and teachers are misleading, non-Biblical and deceptive.   

The evidence is plain - it was established by several witnesses that the "gold dust" that came down in a Redding Bethel service was glitter put into the ventilation system by people employed by the leadership to do it.  Bill Johnson and Benny Hinn teach that we can be "gods". 

Kenneth Copeland prophesied that Covid-19 is been defeated and he banned it from the U.S., and just this week, the number of cases of infected people has reached a record high.  If that is not a false prophecy, I don't know what is.   

All this is not smearing men of God, or backbiting them without substantive evidence.   This is giving clear, evidence-based testimony of falsehood in prophecy and teaching to warn genuine believers not to be deceived, and to avoid these false "apostles" and "prophets" like the plague.   

The "touch not my anointed" does not apply in the case of these false deceivers, because they are not anointed of God and He has not spoken to them or sent them.   A bottle of rat poison is clearly labelled as such, and so these toxic false teachers and prophets should be clearly labelled as poisonous to genuine believers.

[Revelation Man]

On 11/20/2020 at 2:24 PM, Paul James said:

Warning people about false teachers and counterfeit Charismatic movements is not smearing or backbiting.

You named names with ZERO PROOF besides your opinion. Should I be able to call you out as a false teacher/heretic with ZERO PROOF because I disagree with you on this, this and that? Of course not brother. 

 

On 11/20/2020 at 2:24 PM, Paul James said:

You want to read what Paul says about false believers, even actually naming them in some of his letters.   

And he says he called them out to their face, you just made MY POINT !! We are not talking about Judging sinners, which I agree with, the whole thou shalt not judge is a lie from Satan, we are commanded by God to Judge, but the word used in Greek for Judge and Condemn is pretty much the same word it it leads to confusion, we should Judge, but only God, of course, can Condemn. 

On 11/20/2020 at 2:24 PM, Paul James said:

The Bethel prophets predicted Trump will win the election, and one said it was going to be by a margin of 71% of the vote.  None of those prophecies came to pass, and the Scripture clearly indicates that such prophecies are false and that God did not speak to or send them. 

He did win the Election, you are believing the Report of "THE WORLD". ANYONE that doesn't know Trump won BIG with 73 million votes is just not a realist brother. These liberal hacks were talking back and forth on the Lawfare Blog 3 or 4 months ago about how they were going to steal it, Dan Bongino caught them, he signs up for all these blogs/e-mails via a false e-mail to stay hip. He showed what they were saying and they then started wiping their trails. 

They were going to use COVID 19 as a Panic tool, its a lie, most of these deaths were via people who died of other things and had Covid 19, 25 percent of all COVID 19 deaths were caused by 4 Northern Gov. who FORCED COVID 19 patients into Nursing homes, killing 40 to 50 K. It is literally killing NO ONE under age 70, over 99 percent of people under 70 recover !! They were saying they are going to Mail out Ballots to EVERYONE, no matter if they wanted one or not, then Trump would appear to win on Election day, but all you had to do was wait until ALL THE VOTES were counted and they would win. LOL. 

So, what happened, Trump got 63 Million votes in 2016, so they figured they might need 70 million votes or 70, and they had everything set up, all they needed to do was target 5 City Centers, Philly, Milwaukee, Detroit, Maricopa Co, in Arizona, Atlanta, and probably Nevada's large district Clarke co. All they needed was the SWING STATES. So, they saw Trump was getting a HUGE TURNOUT, so they did exactly what the BBC in the UK is a sign of Election Rigging, they stopped the count in the middle of the night, then when they restarted the count they started getting LARGE DROPS of votes. Anyone that says Biden won is just kidding themselves. And, I suspect Trump will win in the end, its just too obvious, but, Satan has a say, if you don't believe that, why did Israel start losing the Battle when he got tired? Because the STAFF WENT DOWN !! All dreams from God and even a word of knowledge is dependent on OUR ACTIONS. Not knowing this is telling of you brother. 

Question, did Jeremiah get it wrong when he Prophesied that Israel would be in bondage for 70 years? Did God speak an untruth when the punishment escalated to 490 years? Of course not, Israel REFUSED to repent. If Israel had REPENTED, they would have seen Jesus usher in the Kingdom in 70 AD !! So, for starters the Election is not over yet, and secondly, if I run a 100 yard dash in 15 seconds and you run it in 15.25, but the Judge says you won, did you win? No. When 97 percent of Republicans say Trump won, and 30 percent of Dems say Trump was cheated, YOU DO THE MATH !!

Relying on the LYING Media is a joke man. Come on brother. No wonder you are doing this to brothers, you are listening to devils reports. Again, you have NO CLUE about COVID 19 because you are listening to the Media. A Nurse made a video the other day, she told how she has to do a test every week or 2, and her friend did a test, it was positive, then Negative, so she had to do it again, it came up positive, then she had to do one 3 times and twice more over the next 14 days, anyway, she said that her friends COUNT was 7 Positive test results, NOT 1 as it should have been. They used this to try and defeat Trump because they are filled with CRAZED Demons who know their end is near. 

You have no proof Benny Hinn teaches we can be gods, provide it, and it will be proven you are in error or you misunderstood him. Anyone that doesn't understand the gifts of the Holy Spirit when they REALLY DO see them that is proof against who they claim to be. I can see the Holy Spirit in a person in 5 minutes. 

Honestly what I sense most of the time on these sites is Jealousy they don't have the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, so they DENY THEM. That was ONLY for the Apostles etc. etc. 

All you are doing is bringing Judgment on yourself brother, leave it be if you don't know, if you do know, confront the brother. 

 

\God Bless

 

[Paul James]

30 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

You named names with ZERO PROOF besides your opinion. Should I be able to call you out as a false teacher/heretic with ZERO PROOF because I disagree with you on this, this and that? Of course not brother. 

 

And he says he called them out to their face, you just made MY POINT !! We are not talking about Judging sinners, which I agree with, the whole thou shalt not judge is a lie from Satan, we are commanded by God to Judge, but the word used in Greek for Judge and Condemn is pretty much the same word it it leads to confusion, we should Judge, but only God, of course, can Condemn. 

He did win the Election, you are believing the Report of "THE WORLD". ANYONE that doesn't know Trump won BIG with 73 million votes is just not a realist brother. These liberal hacks were talking back and forth on the Lawfare Blog 3 or 4 months ago about how they were going to steal it, Dan Bongino caught them, he signs up for all these blogs/e-mails via a false e-mail to stay hip. He showed what they were saying and they then started wiping their trails. 

They were going to use COVID 19 as a Panic tool, its a lie, most of these deaths were via people who died of other things and had Covid 19, 25 percent of all COVID 19 deaths were caused by 4 Northern Gov. who FORCED COVID 19 patients into Nursing homes, killing 40 to 50 K. It is literally killing NO ONE under age 70, over 99 percent of people under 70 recover !! They were saying they are going to Mail out Ballots to EVERYONE, no matter if they wanted one or not, then Trump would appear to win on Election day, but all you had to do was wait until ALL THE VOTES were counted and they would win. LOL. 

So, what happened, Trump got 63 Million votes in 2016, so they figured they might need 70 million votes or 70, and they had everything set up, all they needed to do was target 5 City Centers, Philly, Milwaukee, Detroit, Maricopa Co, in Arizona, Atlanta, and probably Nevada's large district Clarke co. All they needed was the SWING STATES. So, they saw Trump was getting a HUGE TURNOUT, so they did exactly what the BBC in the UK is a sign of Election Rigging, they stopped the count in the middle of the night, then when they restarted the count they started getting LARGE DROPS of votes. Anyone that says Biden won is just kidding themselves. And, I suspect Trump will win in the end, its just too obvious, but, Satan has a say, if you don't believe that, why did Israel start losing the Battle when he got tired? Because the STAFF WENT DOWN !! All dreams from God and even a word of knowledge is dependent on OUR ACTIONS. Not knowing this is telling of you brother. 

Question, did Jeremiah get it wrong when he Prophesied that Israel would be in bondage for 70 years? Did God speak an untruth when the punishment escalated to 490 years? Of course not, Israel REFUSED to repent. If Israel had REPENTED, they would have seen Jesus usher in the Kingdom in 70 AD !! So, for starters the Election is not over yet, and secondly, if I run a 100 yard dash in 15 seconds and you run it in 15.25, but the Judge says you won, did you win? No. When 97 percent of Republicans say Trump won, and 30 percent of Dems say Trump was cheated, YOU DO THE MATH !!

Relying on the LYING Media is a joke man. Come on brother. No wonder you are doing this to brothers, you are listening to devils reports. Again, you have NO CLUE about COVID 19 because you are listening to the Media. A Nurse made a video the other day, she told how she has to do a test every week or 2, and her friend did a test, it was positive, then Negative, so she had to do it again, it came up positive, then she had to do one 3 times and twice more over the next 14 days, anyway, she said that her friends COUNT was 7 Positive test results, NOT 1 as it should have been. They used this to try and defeat Trump because they are filled with CRAZED Demons who know their end is near. 

You have no proof Benny Hinn teaches we can be gods, provide it, and it will be proven you are in error or you misunderstood him. Anyone that doesn't understand the gifts of the Holy Spirit when they REALLY DO see them that is proof against who they claim to be. I can see the Holy Spirit in a person in 5 minutes. 

Honestly what I sense most of the time on these sites is Jealousy they don't have the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, so they DENY THEM. That was ONLY for the Apostles etc. etc. 

All you are doing is bringing Judgment on yourself brother, leave it be if you don't know, if you do know, confront the brother. 

 

\God Bless

 

As far as the election is concerned, time will tell as to the final outcome.

My comments about the false teachers and prophets have come from what has been recorded of what they have actually taught.  There are Youtube videos that show these men actually teaching the false doctrines and perverting the true Charismatic movement, bringing it into disrepute.  The evidence is plainly displayed for all to see.