Desopixi Seilynam Posted February 28, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,004 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 305 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 11/23/2020 at 7:03 PM, john1 said: No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation. Matthew chapter 1 verse 17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David You don't read that as David being in the 14th generation ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted February 28, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 20 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said: You don't read that as David being in the 14th generation ???? What I quoted in Nehemiah was during the exile or after it 28th generation from Abraham, and David was the 14th generation from Abraham not Moses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR7 Posted March 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,907 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 614 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/06/1952 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Ruth is a type of the gentile church. She was grafted in just as we are grafted in. But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[of the olive tree, (Romans 11 17) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 7:18 AM, Desopixi Seilynam said: You don't read that as David being in the 14th generation ???? The 10 generation curse began with Lot as the 1st ancestor of Moabite and Ruth must be beyond the 10th generation from Lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desopixi Seilynam Posted March 7, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,004 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 305 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 2:34 PM, john1 said: What I quoted in Nehemiah was during the exile or after it 28th generation from Abraham, and David was the 14th generation from Abraham not Moses. Deuteronomy 23:3 says "even to their tenth generation" So the tenth generation of the Moabites. Which perhaps Nehemiah could not calculate, but if that was the 28th generation of the Jews, maybe also the tenth generation of the Moabites had passed. Perhaps Nehemiah did not know this, or did not consider it, his complaint was that the wives spoke different languages, causing the children to not know Hebrew, and that as Solomon was led away, they also may be led away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heleadethme Posted March 7, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 15 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,371 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 3,268 Days Won: 5 Joined: 07/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) On 11/23/2020 at 8:03 PM, john1 said: Ruth chapter 1 verse 22 22 So Naomi returned from Moab accompanied by Ruth the Moabite, her daughter-in-law, arriving in Bethlehem as the barley harvest was beginning. Ruth chapter 4 13 So Boaz took Ruth and she became his wife. When he made love to her, the Lord enabled her to conceive, and she gave birth to a son. 14 The women said to Naomi: “Praise be to the Lord, who this day has not left you without a guardian-redeemer. May he become famous throughout Israel! 15 He will renew your life and sustain you in your old age. For your daughter-in-law, who loves you and who is better to you than seven sons, has given him birth.” 16 Then Naomi took the child in her arms and cared for him. 17 The women living there said, “Naomi has a son!” And they named him Obed. He was the father of Jesse, the father of David. Deuteronomy chapter 23 verse 3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation. Matthew chapter 1 verse 17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah. As others have mentioned I agree this has to do with the mercy and favour of God being granted to Gentiles through the gospel. And Ruth gave her son to Naomi, so to speak, who was a Jewess, and this was and is a beautiful picture and foreshadowing of the spirit of adoption. A wonderful thing to point out to Jews when talking about the Messiah and His gospel to them. It is through the mercy shown to the Gentiles that the Jews may now receive mercy. Edited March 7, 2022 by Heleadethme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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