R. Hartono Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 777 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,955 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 4:01 AM, hdtwice said: This is a question that was being addressed in another thread and so as to not hijack that thread, it was suggested to start a new conversation so here it is. Waggles has stated that there was earlier man than Adam and history goes back 40k years. Several asked how he came to that conclusion and we were just starting to get some answers when Waggles suggested a different thread for this so Waggles if you would expand on this..thank you. Roman 3:4 ...let God be true but every man a liar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted February 28, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,090 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 501 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Share Posted February 28, 2021 sounds like nothing more than the gap theory. Biblical Evidence of Men Before Adam and Eve Paperback – September 8, 2009 by Neil R Goslin https://www.masters.edu/news/creation-summit-gods-first-man-q-and-a.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggles Posted February 28, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,790 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 983 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Daniel Marsh said: sounds like nothing more than the gap theory. Biblical Evidence of Men Before Adam and Eve Paperback – September 8, 2009 by Neil R Goslin https://www.masters.edu/news/creation-summit-gods-first-man-q-and-a.html The link takes one to an extremely prejudicial and closeminded blog about this 2. Did pre-human creatures exist before Adam and Eve? Our starting point and foundation for all our disciplines at TMU is the Bible. There is no indication biblically that there were pre-human creatures in God’s creation. In fact, the making of Eve from Adam would have been unnecessary if there were many evolving Eves. Pre-human creatures? Where is that in Genesis one? Evolving Eves? Where does Genesis one imply evolution? Verse 26 states clearly that God created human beings in his image, male and female he created them. Pre-Adamic peoples overcomes both Darwinists and Creationists who claim that the diverse races of human beings came through evolutionary processes. And many six day creationists would also have us believe that Noah's flood wiped out every human being on the planet (except 8) and that all of today's humanity are descended from just eight persons > now who is claiming evolution as the means of creating human diversity? It is interesting to note that there are reports in science which involve analyzing human DNA sequences and in two studies, the evidence points back to a first man and a first women from which all humans descended.[1] In one case the DNA analyzed came from a place in human cells called the mitochondria. The mitochondria in every human comes from maternal inheritance. This again can be a good indicator of the creation of human beings in Genesis one as distinct to the forming of Adam (and Eve) in Genesis two. For when God created the original women of the world of different racial types they would share common fundamental DNA attributes. Edited February 28, 2021 by Waggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggles Posted February 28, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,790 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 983 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) Again quoting from this "creationist" blog Many of the other so-called pre-humans would fall into a simian category or apes, and they were created as animals. As creationists, we believe the Bible is clear that all humans descended from Adam and Eve and therefore any humans found in the fossil record came from Adam and Eve. Young Earth Creationism is one viewpoint of understanding Genesis one and woefully inadequate. Pre-Adamic creation has nothing to do with Darwinism and evolution. God created human beings in his image, male and female he created them - the main five (by my count) racial types and dispersed them across the world prior to Genesis two. Real human beings preceded Eden by about 40,000 years (which matches with anthropology and archaeology). This blog is most one-eyed and simplistic - opining that pre-Adamic creation is all about evolution. Complete rubbish. For the creation of diverse races of human beings before Adam and Eve actually denies evolution as a means to human diversity - a means oddly claimed by both Young Earth Creationists and Darwinists. Adam and Even were not formed and placed in a garden (separated from other humans) for genetic purposes but for spiritual purposes that would bring the plan of salvation into the world: for spiritual rebellion by angels had already occurred and God would intervene directly himself in human affairs eventually as the second Adam. Edited February 28, 2021 by Waggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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