Starise Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,126 Content Per Day: 9.67 Reputation: 13,662 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2021 Anyone here ever study this subject in depth? Numerous passages in the Bible indicate the Lord has cursed family lines at times. Do you see these curses in another family or your own? How does this differ from the effects of sin and how it affects all families? In other words, families all have their problems from the poorest up to the richest and most highly educated i.e the Kennedys, the English royal family. What would you identify as a specific curse the Lord has imposed? Are curses reversible? How would you know if your family was cursed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,715 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I think the whole generational curses kinda disapeared upon Jesus death-we see no mention of generational curses in the NT. I think today its nothing more then superstition. Ive run into a lot of people who believe they have inherited their families curse....but I also wonder how much of it is just they themselves. You believe in something hard enough and your going to see it everywhere....so if you believe your cursed-your life is going to appear way worse to you then those around you. Its also a good excuse to keep one from taking responsibility for ones own bad choices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,126 Content Per Day: 9.67 Reputation: 13,662 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said: I think the whole generational curses kinda disapeared upon Jesus death-we see no mention of generational curses in the NT. I think today its nothing more then superstition. Ive run into a lot of people who believe they have inherited their families curse....but I also wonder how much of it is just they themselves. You believe in something hard enough and your going to see it everywhere....so if you believe your cursed-your life is going to appear way worse to you then those around you. Its also a good excuse to keep one from taking responsibility for ones own bad choices. This is interesting that you bring up the elimination of curses in the NT. This would make sense. Maybe the nature of what we think a curse is plays into this as well? In other words, does a father curse his children if he has the money to send them to college and he doesn't? Are children who don't receive the correct instruction early in life at a disadvantage to children that do? I see the opposite of blessing as a curse. What is a blessing? I see it as anything we can do to help someone else or something God does to help or bless us. If we withold a blessing that is in our power have we then made a curse instead? God can make crops grow (blessing) or He can cause a drought (curse). I see either one as having influences on generations. Even though people tend to place far too much significance on material prosperity. Material wealth honestly gotten though the Lord's hand of blessing can be a source of blessing for future generations. Poverty OTOH assures no help from elders who are poor. This is often through no fault of the person who is in a bad situation or sometimes it is the result of laziness, chemical abuse and general negligence of parental responsibilities. I would seem some people are cursed by default as the result of rejecting the source of all blessings. Generations who don't train up their children in the ways of the Lord can't expect any fruit from lack of training which can be passed on to successive generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timf Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2021 There can be generational consequences such as the suffering a family has with an alcoholic father or mother. However, I see a case to be made that the passing on of judicial sin consequence from father to son stopping earlier in the history of Israel. Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Starise said: Anyone here ever study this subject in depth? Numerous passages in the Bible indicate the Lord has cursed family lines at times. Do you see these curses in another family or your own? How does this differ from the effects of sin and how it affects all families? In other words, families all have their problems from the poorest up to the richest and most highly educated i.e the Kennedys, the English royal family. What would you identify as a specific curse the Lord has imposed? Are curses reversible? How would you know if your family was cursed? what is a generational curse? Would such always come from God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) I am not too concerned about a generational curse. Question: "What does the Bible say about breaking generational curses?" Answer: The Bible mentions “generational curses” in several places (Exodus 20:5; 34:7; Numbers 14:18; Deuteronomy 5:9). God warns that He is “a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me.” It sounds unfair for God to punish children for the sins of their fathers. However, there is more to it than that. The effects of sin are naturally passed down from one generation to the next. When a father has a sinful lifestyle, his children are likely to practice the same sinful lifestyle. Implied in the warning of Exodus 20:5 is the fact that the children will choose to repeat the sins of their fathers. A Jewish Targum specifies that this passage refers to “ungodly fathers” and “rebellious children.” So, it is not unjust for God to punish sin to the third or fourth generation – those generations are committing the same sins their ancestors did. There is a trend in the church today to try to blame every sin and problem on some sort of generational curse. This is not biblical. God’s warning to visit iniquity on future generations is part of the Old Testament Law. A generational curse was a consequence for a specific nation (Israel) for a specific sin (idolatry). The history books of the Old Testament (especially Judges) contain the record of this divine punishment meted out. The cure for a generational curse has always been repentance. When Israel turned from idols to serve the living God, the “curse” was broken and God saved them (Judges 3:9, 15; 1 Samuel 12:10-11). Yes, God promised to visit Israel’s sin upon the third and fourth generations, but in the very next verse He promised that He would show “love to a thousand [generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments” (Exodus 20:6). In other words, God’s grace lasts a thousand times longer than His wrath. For someone worried about a generational curse, the answer is salvation through Jesus Christ. A Christian is a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). How can a child of God still be under God’s curse (Romans 8:1)? The cure for a “generational curse” is repentance of the sin in question, faith in Christ, and a life consecrated to the Lord (Romans 12:1-2). https://www.gotquestions.org/generational-curses.html Edited April 1, 2021 by missmuffet 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, missmuffet said: For someone worried about a generational curse, the answer is salvation through Jesus Christ. A Christian is a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). How can a child of God still be under God’s curse (Romans 8:1)? The cure for a “generational curse” is repentance of the sin in question, faith in Christ, and a life consecrated to the Lord (Romans 12:1-2). Edited April 1, 2021 by Riverwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: ??? I don't know what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, missmuffet said: ??? I don't know what you mean. I mean you said it all perfectly and there is nothing more I could add to it, so I dropped the proverbial microphone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 1, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: I mean you said it all perfectly and there is nothing more I could add to it, so I dropped the proverbial microphone Oh ok.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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