Wake Up Ephesus

[Revartt]

 

With the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movements, should we have our main focus on the Torah and Jewish traditions? What does the Word say? Why would a person leave the Christian church, with its traditions and false doctrines, just to be caught up in Jewish traditions and false doctrines? With most converts to Judaism coming from the Hebrew Roots and Messianic assemblies something is definitely wrong. There are many discovering the “Jewishness” of Jesus, and looking to Jewish traditions to follow, instead of “putting on the Lord Jesus Christ”, they’re “putting on their new found Jewishness”! What is our goal, the main emphasis? This study might sound harsh, but what are you seeking for? The Way, Truth, and Life!  I didn’t “come to Torah” for Salvation, but to Jesus, which is Salvation! What warning did Jesus give first concerning the latter days? DON’T BE DECEIVED!!! Jesus is not the Torah; Jesus (the Word) gave the law to Moses and then expounded upon that law by demonstrating how we are to walk, “even as HE WALKED”! Our Goal is to imitate that which Jesus said and did, and it definitely wasn’t to become a Jew, but a new creation in Christ Jesus by His Spirit! This is not to bash those in these assemblies, because I was in them. It’s to not be deceived by moving the focus, JESUS, to the Torah. Not that the Torah is bad, because it’s not, but now with the New Testament, Jesus, being the “Testator”, and the One who had to die for us to receive the inheritance, we must learn from Him the ordinances of sacrifice, putting ourselves upon the alter in order to die to this flesh and be raised in newness of Life in Christ Jesus, OUR GOAL!

Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that He might be the firstborn among many brothers.

“Abide in the Doctrine of Christ”, or you “Hath Not God”                            

2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 

Is there a better Way to understand the Law than from the One who gave us that Law?

1Jn 5:9 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God (JESUS) is greater, for this is the testimony of God that he has borne concerning his Son. 1Jn 5:10 Whoever believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. Whoever does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has borne concerning his Son. 1Jn 5:11 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 1Jn 5:12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

The Hebrew Roots (Most), and the Messianic (Most) movements are following through a different “DOOR”! Are we to follow Jews, or our Lord Jesus?    

Joh 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. Joh 10:8  All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. Joh 10:9  I am the door: by Me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 

We’re to Seek the righteousness of Jesus, and enter by the Door                  

Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate (Door/Jesus): for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 

Luk 13:25  When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door (Jesus), and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 

Who is our Rabbi?                                                                                               

Mat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for One is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 

Who are we to follow?                                                                                         

Mat 4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me (Jesus), and I will make you fishers of men. 

Mar 8:34  And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me (Jesus). 

(Example of a Jewish tradition)The Shema, “a Jewish prayer & song”, a tradition of men! The Shema is not a prayer in the Word, but rather instructions of how to live throughout the day and every day! Are we called to walk as a Jew, or to walk as HE walked? The Shema was taken from three small sections and turned into a prayer/song, but scripture in its context is what is essential to growing and learning.

This is addressed to what I believe are the Messianic and Hebrew Roots of today, who put Torah and Jewish traditions before our Messiah, leaving their First Love:                                                                                                            

Rev 2:1  Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; Rev 2:2  I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Rev 2:3  And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love (JESUS/Doctrine of Christ). 

 Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. 

So why is it important to follow the Doctrines of Christ, the Spirit of the Word?                             

Jesus fulfilled (fully preach) the law, being the “Perfect” example to us of how to truly keep it! He was the mystery of God that was hidden until He came. Who will we learn from, Jesus or the Torah? Without Jesus we are still under the curse of the law! So which is more important? Jesus will teach us the Torah by the way He walked!                                                                                                                  

Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, Rom 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 

What are we told about the traditions of men? Check what you’re saying and doing, and see if it is a “commandment of God”, or a tradition of men! Did our God command us to look and act Jewish (with Cabalist hand signs (triangle) in your prayer of Aaron, the scroll parade, allegiance to a wicked nation and not the true Israel of God, and a flag bearing the star used by the occult since Babylon)? O Jerusalem Jerusalem, how I long to gather you… Realize Israel (Jerusalem/Temple of our God) is only a believer in the Messiah, who keeps His commandments, for there is neither Jew nor Greek, only those who are in Christ Jesus. Who is your Savior, the commandments or your Messiah? I know many will say He is the Word/Torah, and if this be true, “Follow Him”, what He said and taught through the Gospel of Jesus Christ!

Your traditions will cause you to reject God (Jesus, the Living Word)         

Mat 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 

Mar 7:9  And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 

Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. 

Commanded to listen and follow Jesus from the Torah!                                

Deu 18:18  I will raise them up a Prophet (The Messiah) from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put My words in His mouth; and He shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which HE shall speak in My name, I will require it of him. (Require: properly to tread or frequent)                                                                                    

Do you want the written word (Law) or the “manifest Word” (Spirit)?                                 

Col 2:6  As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: Col 2:7  Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Col 2:8  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after “Christ”. Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col 2:10  And ye are complete in him, which is the head of ALL principality and power: 

1Jn 1:1  That which was from the beginning (Jesus), which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 1Jn 1:2  (For the life was manifested (Jesus), and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) 1Jn 1:3  That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. 1Jn 1:4  And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 

Who are we to “Tabernacle” with, the Law (Moses) & the Prophets (Elias)?                                   

I would suggest learning all we can about Jesus and His life, before trying to understand all the laws in the Torah. Jesus greatly expounded on those laws. 

Mat 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. Mat 17:4  Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses (The Law), and one for Elias (The Prophets). 

Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. Mat 17:6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. Mat 17:7  And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. Mat 17:8  And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. (“Tabernacle” with JESUS ONLY!)

Who do we put on, Torah or Jesus (the Perfect demonstrator of the Law)?                                                        Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof. 

1Co 15:53  For this corruptible (us) must put on incorruption (Jesus), and this mortal must put on immortality (For Salvation/Jesus). 1Co 15:54  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory (Put on the Lord Jesus Christ for Salvation). 

Col 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; Col 3:10  And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Col 3:11  Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. Col 3:12  Put on (Jesus Christ)therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 

Are you a Jew or a Gentile? Neither, if  you are Christ’s, Israel’s your name!                                                                                   

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. 

SALVATION is by JESUS CHRIST alone, but the evidence of our Salvation (JESUS) is when we love Him we will keep His commandments, putting on the Lord Jesus Christ, as taught and walked by Him!

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.                                                                 

Your “Roots” better be in “THE VINE”!!!                                           

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without Me ye can do nothing.

I use English (known) words, so it doesn’t confuse or scare away the reader! I believe however it’s a blessing to call on God (a title) in His Hebrew tongue in my prayers, or with like minded believers who understand.

[Riverwalker]

40 minutes ago, Revartt said:

the Christian church, with its traditions and false doctrines

Which church are you referring to? The One that Jesus is the Head of?  Certainly not. For His church has no tradition and false doctrines

If you are talking about a specific denomination of men, then be specific

Christians must turn to the Whole bible, with understanding, that the Old covenant does not save.

Galatians 5: 4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace

Sorry I didn't read any further, but that is where the train jumped the tracks for me

[Duck]

Matthew 5:17

luke 16:31