Whyme Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.96 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Justin Adams said: Realise that this is almost a direct quote from Isaiah. It is apocalyptic speaking much like the odes in the Tanakh. John often used flowery and OT types of quotes. It was a way of painting a picture of reality using hyperbole. Whats the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Justin Adams said: Revelation was written about 60-66 AD. Probably the year nero died for safety. It would have to be, to make this preterism the truth But it was written @ 90 ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyme Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.96 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: IMMEDITALY yes indeed If Jesus has not returned (and I am pretty sure He hasn't) then he was not referring to the destruction of the temple which we knew happened in ad 70 years, twenty years before John had his revelation, WHICH seems pretty pointless IF this has already all happened I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.95 Reputation: 7,796 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: It would have to be, to make this preterism the truth But it was written @ 90 ad Iraeanius was incorrect many times and NOT inspired. He said in 'Against Heresies' that Yeshua was over 50 years old. Read his writing very carefully. Edited May 7, 2021 by Justin Adams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Whyme said: I don't understand. Short Answer I am agreeing with you which part did I not make clear (I tend to muddle things from time to time) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Justin Adams said: Iraeanius was incorrect many times and NOT inspired. He said in 'Against Heresies' that Yeshua was over 50 years old. Read his writing very carefully. If I have to go out of the bible to see you making your point.....hard pass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyme Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.96 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Riverwalker said: Short Answer I am agreeing with you which part did I not make clear (I tend to muddle things from time to time) The whole thing, but its good bro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, LadyKay said: Matthew 24:34 reads: Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Jesus is talking about the end of the world and his returning. But the generation he is talking about did pass away before his return. So I do not understand this passage. Can someone explain what I am missing? Jesus was pointing to the particular future generation that will see the specific signs of the great tribulation. In other words, the same generation that will experience the great tribulation will also witness the second coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) Appears when many come running around saying they are Christ, (there are a few people claiming this today, Jesus of Russia but certainly not many). So when that happens probably a sign the end is not yet and the many claiming to be Christ hasn’t happened yet, So is the end long way off or around the bend. Edited May 7, 2021 by BeyondET 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Jesus was pointing to the particular future generation that will see the specific signs of the great tribulation. In other words, the same generation that will experience the great tribulation will also witness the second coming. So true that is the flaw with preterism They think the tribulation has already come and Nero was the Antichrist, but unless the return of Christ happened sever years from the beginning of that, it was nit the tribulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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