missmuffet Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Riverwalker said: So true that is the flaw with preterism They think the tribulation has already come and Nero was the Antichrist, but unless the return of Christ happened sever years from the beginning of that, it was nit the tribulation There are a lot of problems with preterism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, BeyondET said: Appears when many come running around saying they are Christ, (there are a few people claiming this today, Jesus of Russia but certainly not many). So when that happens probably a sign the end is not yet and the many claiming the be Christ hasn’t happened yet, So is the end long way off? When I was in my twenties I 2was convince Christ was coming soon When I was in my thirties I was sure When I was in my forties I was pretty sure When I was in my 50's I was hoping Now that I am in my 60's I am not sure, and If comes to meet me, or I go to meet Him its all good There is no way of knowing. but you can keep yourself prepared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyme Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.94 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 So what's Jesus saying exactly? Please walk us through your interpretation. It doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterR Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 321 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/22/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 When asked when Jesus is coming, always answer: Today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.94 Reputation: 7,798 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, missmuffet said: There are a lot of problems with preterism. Every believer is a preterist and futurist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.94 Reputation: 7,798 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, missmuffet said: There are a lot of problems with preterism. Not nearly the problems caused by Dallas Theological Seminary that indoctrinates preachers in the Darby dispensational errors. Up until Darby, most conservative theology had not changed from the early church. That is roughly 1800 years of what is now called 'partial preterism'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, Justin Adams said: Every believer is a preterist and futurist. Every believer is a futurist or historical believer. But if they read the Bible for what it is intended and correctly they will be a futurist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.94 Reputation: 7,798 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, missmuffet said: Every believer is a futurist or historical believer. But if they read the Bible for what it is intended and correctly they will be a futurist. OH. So all the OT prophecies about the first coming of the messiah are future...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 13,129 Content Per Day: 9.64 Reputation: 13,678 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 For what it's worth I found this study on the subject helpful. I am not familiar with Grace Theological seminary. I am only going by the study as presented here which I thought was quite well done. The Structure And Sequence Of Matt 24:1-41: Interaction With Evangelical Treatments As I mentioned before, a view of these passages doesn't have to be an either or with respect to preterist or futurist views. Anything that seems a stretch probably is so far as ascertaining the entirety of the meanings. We are told only the Father knows the day or hour of His return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 7, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Justin Adams said: OH. So all the OT prophecies about the first coming of the messiah are future...? Apparently you are preterist. I don't and never will support your theology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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