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Dad Ernie Posted April 3, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,802 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/01/1945 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Greetings All, I pray you test the words of Zhav very carefully. There appears to be a lot of imagination mixed with "some" scripture. I am always alerted by the Lord to: Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. So be good Bereans and search the scripture to see if what is said is of God. Blessings, Dad Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RGR Posted June 2, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted June 2, 2004 xyz Huh? What am I missing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted June 8, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I'm still waiting to see what I'm missing here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Way Posted July 22, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 728 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted July 22, 2004 Just two questions for now . . . if your conjecture is true, question one, why is the Biblical chronological order for the Marrage of the Lamb after the destruction of the beast, whore, yes, spiritual Babylon? Remember, the rising of the beast and his destruction begins in chapter 13 and concludes in 18 . . . Does not Jewish marriage tradition have the Bridegroom and the Bride off in the marriage chamber for 7 days after the ceremony? Then, after 7 days the Bridegroom presents the Bride to the guests (that have been waiting outside the chamber all along? I see a tremendous parallel between the 7 days in the marriage chamber and the 7 year period, known as the 70th week of Daniel, where God deals with Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 23, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 527 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2004 This generation Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled [Matt. 24:34]. The word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dustycanvas Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 In the old testament the Jewish people were the "chosen people" and the Jewish laws and traditions were the way things were done. But in the New Testament the "chosen people" are those who are "called" (that being anyone who sees their need for God and complies with the plan of salvation). The death.burial and ressurection linked the bridge for all to be able to come before Him. The "veil was rent in two". From that time forward the way we came to God and the way of salvation was changed. We are no longer bound by Moses' law and by Jewish tradition. Saying that...I can appreciate your connecting the Jewish tradition with end time teaching but, it really doesn't have much relavancy. (I say this with respect, Im not trying to be disrespectful) So, linking the two isn't possible. Sabrina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 25, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 527 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2004 why Futurism has made Jesus a false prophet. link http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=62272 http://campus.fortunecity.com/defiant/666/coming2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero's Fiddle Posted August 9, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 328 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2004 In the old testament the Jewish people were the "chosen people" and the Jewish laws and traditions were the way things were done. But in the New Testament the "chosen people" are those who are "called" (that being anyone who sees their need for God and complies with the plan of salvation). The death.burial and ressurection linked the bridge for all to be able to come before Him. The "veil was rent in two". From that time forward the way we came to God and the way of salvation was changed. We are no longer bound by Moses' law and by Jewish tradition. Saying that...I can appreciate your connecting the Jewish tradition with end time teaching but, it really doesn't have much relavancy. (I say this with respect, Im not trying to be disrespectful) So, linking the two isn't possible. I see your point. However, you are not entirely correct. (For one thing, the "veil being rent in two" was symbolic of Christ allowing man to enter directly into the presence of God, based on the JEWISH TRADITION stating that the veil separated people in the Temple from His presence in the Holy of Holies. A shadow, a type, a symbol. See what I mean?) God said through His Word, in the NEW TESTAMENT, that all the feasts and holidays He gave the Jews were shadows and types, and that Christ is the substance of each. Christ Himself told the Pharisees that it was He of whom Moses wrote, and even went through a whole exposition of Himself in the OT with two of His disciples after His resurrection. No, we are no longer responsible for the Jewish laws or obligated to observe the Jewish feasts and tradiditons. But God didn't give them out of caprice and for no reason. He had a purpose for each. I cannot know exactly what God's purposes for them were. I do not claim to know for sure that the feasts or traditions tie in with the endtimes. But I do know the following: Jesus compared Himself to a bridegroom and the saints to a bride. He even compared several attributes of His actual second coming to traditions of the Jewish wedding. Furthermore, the symbolism involved in the Jewish feasts matches astoundingly various epochs in the revealed plan of our Lord. Note the connection between the three spring festivals of Passover, Firstfruits, and Pentecost and the Crucifixion, the Burial and Resurrection, and Pentecost. Now note the connection between the three spring festivals of Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles and the Rapture, salvation of the Jewish remnant, and return of the Lord. (Interestingly enough, Trumpets is followed by a period of repentance and cleansing known as the "Days of Awe"... Rapture followed by Tribulation?) I am only in the beginning stages of this study myself, so I would suggest looking for better versed references if you are interested in a more in-depth explanation. I will try to find you a good link. Hope this helps! All the love I have in Christ, and I know He's coming quickly, NF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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