angels4u Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, The Barbarian said: Right. I don't think there's going to be a rapture, but if I'm wrong and I'm wrong enough to be left behind, the beast followers will quickly fix that for me. I'll profess faith in Jesus, and they'll kill me. As you say, problem solved. Actually ,that's not true, if you're a born again Christian and the rapture will happen, you will be raptured also.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 9:14 AM, Justin Adams said: That is all fake and comes mostly from dispensational dogma. It is wrong. Maybe show respect to people who do not believe your doctrine? Is it a matter of Salvation? They are your brothers and sisters... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Josheb said: What does that mean? "Captured" by God? "Captured" by the bad guys if left behind? I thought I changed the c for an r lol, my keyboard changed it wrong again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Online Share Posted November 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, angels4u said: Actually ,that's not true, if you're a born again Christian and the rapture will happen, you will be raptured also.... As I said, if I for any reason am wrong about being a born-again Christian, confessing my belief in Jesus, and being willing to die for Him, would be sufficient, according to our Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Online Share Posted November 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, angels4u said: Maybe show respect to people who do not believe your doctrine? Is it a matter of Salvation? They are your brothers and sisters... It's not a salvation issue. And there are Christians on all sides of that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Online Share Posted November 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, missmuffet said: You are Catholic and they are amillenial and they don't believe in a rapture of the Church or a 1000 year Millennium. Yep. But it's not a matter of salvation. You are no less likely to be saved, if you believe in a rapture or a 1000 year Millennium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Barbarian said: Yep. But it's not a matter of salvation. You are no less likely to be saved, if you believe in a rapture or a 1000 year Millennium. That is true the rapture before the 7 year tribulation is not a salvation issue.But being a true born again Christian is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Josheb said: He's showing you respect by posting the truth. Modern rapturism has a long history of false teachers and many have not listened to those who have tried to speak the truth. The false teachers get supported and the truthsayers get naysayed. So let me encourage you to practice your post and show some respect because Justin is your brothers and he's not here to troll. You're a mod of chat so you know the rules: if you think Justin's post is disrespectful then report it. Otherwise, keep the posts about the posts and not the posters. Maybe show some respect to those who do not believe your doctrine by...... ....... keeping the posts op-relevant. And remember: silence is one of our greatest tools in cyberspace. Just don't respond at all. What makes us a Christian? I'm not here to argue,but we need to respect others who believe different then we do, are we brothers and sisters in the Lord if we believe or not believe in the rapture? It's not a matter of Salvation. Kindness goes a long way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2021 America will be one of the many countries which will escape the end time and the Antichrists rule (Dan.11:40-44). Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Dan. 11:40-44). Because he will reign only over ten countries inside the Roman Empire territory and because America is not inside that territory and never will be, and because certain countries will escape him we can scripturally conclude that he will never rule America or be a world-wide dictator. Therefore, multitudes of people of many nations will also never take the mark of the beast and they will never be killed by the Antichrist for not doing so. The Bible speaks of many peoples of many nations that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Zech. 14:16-21). The ten kingdoms are to be formed inside the old Roman Empire from the present states in that territory. It is clear that there will be at least another war in Europe, Asia, and Africa in order for this to be fulfilled. When the ten kingdoms are formed, then Daniel 7:23-24 will be fulfilled. These ten kingdoms will be the Revised Roman Empire which is symbolized by the ten toes on the great image of Dan. 2, the ten horns on the fourth beast of Dan. 7:7-8, 19-24, the ten horns on the dragon and the beast of Rev. 12, 13, and 17. This formation of the ten kingdoms will be necessary to fulfill both Dan. 7 and 8. I suppose America will do what it has always done. She will support those she is aligned with at the time. Scripture also shows that the Arabs will protect Israel during the last three and one half years of this age. In Dan. 11:41 we read that Arabia or ancient Edom and Moab will escape the Antichrist. In Isa. 16:1-5; Ezek. 20:33-35; Matt. 24:15-21; Rev. 12:5-7 we read of Israel fleeing for protection into the wilderness of Edom and Moab, and since they escape the Antichrist and flee into this country for protection, then it is clear that the Arabs protect them during this time. The Bible names the very city in Edom and Moab that Israel will flee to for protection during the tribulation. It is Sela or Petra, the capital of Edom (Isa. 16:1-5; 26:20-21; 63:1-8). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted November 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, HAZARD said: America will be one of the many countries which will escape the end time and the Antichrists rule (Dan.11:40-44). Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Dan. 11:40-44). Because he will reign only over ten countries inside the Roman Empire territory and because America is not inside that territory and never will be, and because certain countries will escape him we can scripturally conclude that he will never rule America or be a world-wide dictator. Therefore, multitudes of people of many nations will also never take the mark of the beast and they will never be killed by the Antichrist for not doing so. The Bible speaks of many peoples of many nations that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Zech. 14:16-21). The ten kingdoms are to be formed inside the old Roman Empire from the present states in that territory. It is clear that there will be at least another war in Europe, Asia, and Africa in order for this to be fulfilled. When the ten kingdoms are formed, then Daniel 7:23-24 will be fulfilled. These ten kingdoms will be the Revised Roman Empire which is symbolized by the ten toes on the great image of Dan. 2, the ten horns on the fourth beast of Dan. 7:7-8, 19-24, the ten horns on the dragon and the beast of Rev. 12, 13, and 17. This formation of the ten kingdoms will be necessary to fulfill both Dan. 7 and 8. I suppose America will do what it has always done. She will support those she is aligned with at the time. Scripture also shows that the Arabs will protect Israel during the last three and one half years of this age. In Dan. 11:41 we read that Arabia or ancient Edom and Moab will escape the Antichrist. In Isa. 16:1-5; Ezek. 20:33-35; Matt. 24:15-21; Rev. 12:5-7 we read of Israel fleeing for protection into the wilderness of Edom and Moab, and since they escape the Antichrist and flee into this country for protection, then it is clear that the Arabs protect them during this time. The Bible names the very city in Edom and Moab that Israel will flee to for protection during the tribulation. It is Sela or Petra, the capital of Edom (Isa. 16:1-5; 26:20-21; 63:1-8). The United States is not even mentioned in the book of Revelation and neither is the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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