Pastor faces hearing over 'anti-gay' letter

[Keith]

Don'tcha love the new homosexual version of tolerance!?!

Pastor faces hearing over 'anti-gay' letter

Won't apologize, willing to go to prison if convicted

Posted: September 10, 2005

1:00 a.m. Eastern

A Canadian pastor who works with at-risk youth is preparing to face his province's Human Rights Tribunal because of a letter to the editor he wrote calling homosexuality immoral and dangerous.

The letter by the Rev. Stephen Boissoin of Alberta also called into question the province's new homosexual-rights curriculum, reported LifeSiteNews.com.

The complaint was filed by Darren Lund, an assistant professor at the University of Calgary, after Boissoin's letter was published in the Red Deer Advocate.

If Boissoin loses, he could be forced to pay $7,000 in fines

[mrs]

I am grieved for my country.This is not the first time this has happened.This preacher and everyone involved is going to need a lot of prayer for the Holy Spirit's guidance.

[Keith]

It doesn't even make sense that a professor is sueing him over a letter the pastor wrote to a newspaper. Isn't there free speech in Canada? Just because you don't like someone else's opinion gives you the right to sue them? This professor is just a big, dozy donkey.

I'm grateful for the stand the Canadian pastors have taken to stand up for their faith and for God without backing down. (Indeed all Christians around the globe who stand in the face of adversity and persecution for their faith!) If more Christians did this, maybe homosexuality wouldn't be as "advanced" as it is.

By the way, in this instance, shouldn't the newspaper be held in accountability for printing the letter???

[VRSpock]

It doesn't even make sense that a professor is sueing him over a letter the pastor wrote to a newspaper.  Isn't there free speech in Canada?  Just because you don't like someone else's opinion gives you the right to sue them?  This professor is just a big, dozy donkey.

I'm grateful for the stand the Canadian pastors have taken to stand up for their faith and for God without backing down.  (Indeed all Christians around the globe who stand in the face of adversity and persecution for their faith!)  If more Christians did this, maybe homosexuality wouldn't be as "advanced" as it is.

By the way, in this instance, shouldn't the newspaper be held in accountability for printing the letter???

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Hmm....maybe everyone can start a sueing frenzy in Canada over ANYTHING that they read and don't agree with.....until the court systems there are so over flowing the paper work that they say enough is enough.

[papasangel]

It doesn't even make sense that a professor is sueing him over a letter the pastor wrote to a newspaper.

[VRSpock]

Though I disagree thoroughly with what the pastor is saying, I hate to see things like this.

If I think something is wrong, I should be able to say it. Unfortunately, over in the UK, we are also slowly losing this right.

Now, if the pastor was advocating something illegal, or was discriminating because of his views, then fine, deal with him legally.

Woah, hang on. This guy is saying that homosexuality is dangerous and can be fatal. Hmm.

A tricky question, do you think he should be fined if he said "Black people are dangerous, and should be avoided. Children are being told that black people are normal, and this is highly immoral"?

Ian

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Personally, I don't see saying that homosexuality is dangerous and can be fatal is wrong. People try to cling to the concept that being "born gay" gives them an automatic free pass to justify the sin and anyone who disagrees with them is automatically prejudice against them and infringing on their "rights". Using that logic, alcholics can file lawsuits against Alcholics Anonymous or Mother's Against Drunk Drivers stating that these two organizations preach hate speeches against those "born alcoholic". Drug addicts can file suit against all the organizations that preach against drug abuse for the same reasoning. Overweight people can file lawsuits against any nutritionists in the nation for speaking out against a characterisitc that they were born with. The list goes on and on.

So if a judge in Canada or anywhere else in the world is greeted by this Pandora's box, they should really think carefully about the ramifications of any judgement call they make before opening that box.

We don't see an Alcoholics pride day....or a drug abuse pride day....so why celebrate any other pre-disposed genetic trait that God's word calls sin?

Being of a certain race is not a sin...anymore than being male or female is a sin. God's not concerned about our outward physical appearance...He's concerned about what's inside.

Edited September 12, 2005 by vrspock

[VRSpock]

Saying that alcohol is dangerous, or that drugs are, or that even unhealthy food is, is not the same as saying that being gay is. This is because the first three have an overwhelming amount of evidence showing how bad they are, whereas being gay is just wrong in your opinion.

Saying that fat people are immoral is another story though, you could argue that its slander.

Saying that people should be allowed to be gay is an atrocious violation of someones rights, and saying that these people should be outcast because your holy book says so is just absurd. These people are people too, and deserve to be treated with the same respect as you do.

What about my question about what if the pastor had been outspoken about black people?

Ian

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Any pastor who speaks out against skin color needs to read their bible again because they obviously missed some very key points....like the 4 gospels for starters.

I never said we should hate gay people...to the contrary....Christ commands us to love our neighbors.....but not our neighbors sin.

As for as why its dangerous...for the same reason that any sexual activity is dangerous and can be fatal. Surely you don't believe it to not be dangerous and possibly fatal. God doesn't tell us something is sin because He gets His jollies from telling us what we can and can't do. He does it to protect us from harm....both from ourselves and others around us.

I'm not the one that called homosexuality a "abomination in the eyes of God"....God did...in His own words. Anyone that has a problem with that needs to have a nice long talk with God or choose to go their own way and ignore His word. It's their choice to make...I'm not going for force a choice on anyone...but I don't want my rights of free speech to be infringed when I quote God's word, nor do I want the public's rights to be infringed by people throwing their choice of immorality up in the air in a grand and rebelliously spirited specular pretending that it's something bold and new or trying to alter God's word by trying to pretend it is something that can be justified. Call it for what it is. Why can't they admit their own sins? Why be fake and pretend its something that it isn't? I can admit my own...as can anyone that is truly Christian. We could all collectively crash these boards by posting a flood list of sins that we are all guilty of.

And as for being overweight...I myself am overweight...as is a lot of people I know....but God's word says that our bodies are not our own....that we were purchased through Christ's sacrifice on the cross. Our bodies are His temple and I am just as guilty as the rest of failing to maintain that temple to God's standards. I cannot condemn anyone without first condemning myself. Pointing out one's sin is not condemnation though....it's edyfication if they are so bound by that sin that they do not see it as such....and we are commanded to do just that. Any church body that fails to do these things according to scripture has already lost their first love and are a marsh of stagnant waters in the eyes of God.

[VRSpock]

First of all, I agree with free speech fully, I may not agree with what others say, but they should have the right to say it. However, there is a difference between freedom of speech and slander.

It may suprise you that there are other views of the world, some contrary to your own. Some think that being gay is fine, so why should they feel like they have sinned?

Nope...not at all...people choose to ignore God's word on a daily basis...and it is demonstrated to the world time and time again through out history what happens when people make that choice. If they choose that path, that is their choice....they can pretend that God and God's word doesn't exist all they want to...but according to God's word their actions are ungoldy and will result in their ultimate destruction. Their choice to ignore God's word won't change that fact. They can even make up their own version of God's word and claim to be godly....but it won't change God's judgement or God's word. Again, people do this all the time.

I can choose to stand on a set of train tracks....and I can choose to believe that there is no train coming...and I can convince others of the same...but it won't change the fact that our opinions don't mean squat when that train comes.

God's word is God's word...and no man's opinion can change that...not even my own. God's word has remained the same....since the beginning of time...so why do people pretend to be in shock and horror when they are told by those who believe God's word to be true that homosexuality is wrong according to His word?

Sexual acts can be dangerous and yes, can be fatal. This is different from saying that being attracted to your own gender is dangerous. This is what the pastor is saying. Does he also write letters saying that sex within wedlock can be dangerous and fatal?

No its not.....God's word stands...no matter how much people try to twist it or twist our constitution into protecting some special interests group. God's word and the original intent of our constitution stand for the same thing....equality.

We are all equally sinners....we are all equally guilty....and we must all equally repent. If gays can parade in the streets for their opinion that they have something to be proud of...then so can those who oppose their choice to embrace a sinful lifestyle parade in the streets for their opinion that such a public display of a sinful lifestyle is a disgrace to this nation.

Why is it that those who have an opinion different than that of gays are considered wrong for even saying anything...much less parading around in public? I'll tell you why...because the people pushing for gay rights are not about equal rights...they are about special rights which is not what this country stands for and its not what God stands for.

[papasangel]

Though I disagree thoroughly with what the pastor is saying, I hate to see things like this.

If I think something is wrong, I should be able to say it. Unfortunately, over in the UK, we are also slowly losing this right.

Now, if the pastor was advocating something illegal, or was discriminating because of his views, then fine, deal with him legally.

Woah, hang on. This guy is saying that homosexuality is dangerous and can be fatal. Hmm.

A tricky question, do you think he should be fined if he said "Black people are dangerous, and should be avoided. Children are being told that black people are normal, and this is highly immoral"?

Ian

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Personally, I don't see saying that homosexuality is dangerous and can be fatal is wrong. People try to cling to the concept that being "born gay" gives them an automatic free pass to justify the sin and anyone who disagrees with them is automatically prejudice against them and infringing on their "rights". Using that logic, alcholics can file lawsuits against Alcholics Anonymous or Mother's Against Drunk Drivers stating that these two organizations preach hate speeches against those "born alcoholic". Drug addicts can file suit against all the organizations that preach against drug abuse for the same reasoning. Overweight people can file lawsuits against any nutritionists in the nation for speaking out against a characterisitc that they were born with. The list goes on and on.

So if a judge in Canada or anywhere else in the world is greeted by this Pandora's box, they should really think carefully about the ramifications of any judgement call they make before opening that box.

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Saying that alcohol is dangerous, or that drugs are, or that even unhealthy food is, is not the same as saying that being gay is. This is because the first three have an overwhelming amount of evidence showing how bad they are, whereas being gay is just wrong in your opinion.

Saying that fat people are immoral is another story though, you could argue that its slander.

Saying that people should be allowed to be gay is an atrocious violation of someones rights, and saying that these people should be outcast because your holy book says so is just absurd. These people are people too, and deserve to be treated with the same respect as you do.

What about my question about what if the pastor had been outspoken about black people?

Ian

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Its not about our "Holy Book" saying its wrong but what God says that counts. And yes being homosexual is dangerous. You can catch disease and you can be assulted (although I believe no one has the right to assault anyone because they are gay there are some who feel and act differently) by those who think and act in ignorance. As to being born gay. To borrow an english expression poppycock! it is a learned behavior and there is no such thing as a "gay" gene. I believe that most start out as courious and like what they find and so try to justify that by saying they are born gay.

[Guest Big Dog]

looks like we'll have to broadcast the word from America, if Canadians are to hear the truth!

I can't imagine what it'd be like to define my life by what type of sex I prefer.

Praise God there are more important things in my life