A challenage for you Apologetics

[Inti]

Off the top of my head I can think of three maybe four major world religions, other than Christianity. So why is Christianity the right choice?

According to Wikipedia, Christianity has the largest number of followers with a total of 2.1 Billion.

That breaks down into 1.1 Billion Catholics, 350 million Protestants, 240 million Eastern Orthodox, and 84 million Anglicans. All, very respectable figures.

Next is Islam, with a total of 1.3 Billion followers, so Islam is actually more popular than any of the different Christian denominations. It then classes

[Trust & Obey]

Because Jesus said He is the ONLY way to God:

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And, Jesus rose from the dead thereby verifying His authority over death and validating His ministry.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

1Co 15:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

1Co 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

1Co 15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

All of the leaders of the other so-called religions are still dead in their graves, bodily. Spiritually I don't want to think about where they are.

[Inti]

Some Bible Stuff.

Thank you for your reply, I won't bother reading it, as it appears you haven't read my inital post fully.

Logic and reason only please.

Edited September 13, 2005 by Inti

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

How are Salvation wrought and sins forgiven in all of the above Religons of the world?

I want you to answer according to what you know of Christianity as well.

Also, you cannot negate the personhood of Jesus Christ nor His Word in your logic and reason. Simply because with no Christ. There is no Christianity. You must take His claims into account or logic begins to break down.

Peace,

Dave

[Inti]

Grace to you,

How are Salvation wrought and sins forgiven in all of the above Religons of the world?

I want you to answer according to what you know of Christianity as well.

Also, you cannot negate the personhood of Jesus Christ nor His Word in your logic and reason. Simply because with no Christ. There is no Christianity. You must take His claims into account or logic begins to break down.

Peace,

Dave

Trust me, I can negate the personhood of Jesus Christ. Apart from the Bible, how else can you prove that he existed. Existed and was divine. As it is the Bible that establishes his divinity, and if you look at my initial post over 1/2 of the world doesn't believe it.

[Token Atheist]

Also, you cannot negate the personhood of Jesus Christ nor His Word in your logic and reason. Simply because with no Christ. There is no Christianity.

Your logic doesn't follow.

The reality of Christ is not necessary for Christianity to exist any more than the reality of Brahma is needed for Hinduism to exist, or the Reality of the "planet of the Elohim" is needed for Raelism to exist. Only the belief in Christ is necessary.

Edited September 13, 2005 by Token Atheist

[Guest Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Have you considered Pastafarianism?

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

You did not begin to answer my question about Salvation and the forgiveness of sins.

Sorry, Logic does demand that Christ existed in the flesh for Christianity to exist. he is the fulfillment of Gods Word of Truth. Yes you can be Saved by merely Grace and the belief on His Word of Truth. However the Word of Truth demands the born out Testimony of the Word. We believe by Faith the Promise of the Word of God. It has been demonstrated in the personhood of Jesus Christ to be True.

Please explain how sins are forgiven and Salvation wrought in these other world Religions?

Peace,

Dave

[Inti]

Grace to you,

You did not begin to answer my question about Salvation and the forgiveness of sins.

Please explain how sins are forgiven and Salvation wrought in these other world Religions?

Peace,

Dave

Again you refer to Christ as divine, where is your proof that "He is the fulfillment of Gods Word of Truth". Does it come from the Bible by any chance, I appreciate you commenting but you do not seem to be able to look at this objectivly.

Is it important that other religions handle sins and forgiveness differently to Christianity? You are imposing your set of beliefs on the other religions. Why should they comform to the way Christianity works?

But if you care to know, Hinduism deals with Sins and Salvation through Reincarnation. There is no afterlife for them, but their past digressions count against them when it comes to being reincarnated.

If they are a horrible person, that is cruel to others, they could come back as some lowly animal, and receive nothing but scorn in their next life. Or as they have a caste system, they might come back into a family in a lower caste than the one they are already in.

That is, without proof, as perfectly valid as believing that your Salvation lies in someone that may or may not have existed. And IF he existed may or may not have been divine.

You seem to be focused on the Sin and Salvation side of Christianity, do you believe in Christ purely because you are scared about whats going to happen to you when you die?

Edited September 13, 2005 by Inti

[WayneB]

Before I share my thoughts with you, it's nice to meet you Inti. I am Wayne and serve as a moderator here. I pray that your intentions are good and that you are truly seeking TRUTH and not just trying to trip folks up.

Now, on to your original post. What you write is not completely accurate or fair. Regarding Islam, you made the statement, "Islam is actually more popular than any of the different Christian denominations." That's not entirely true since Islam has many different factions as well...call them "denominations". Regardless, Christianity is not in competition with the world. Yes, some Christians act that way but the ONLY consideration of the true Christian apologist is NOT to prove himself right but to bring the lost to see the TRUTH of salvation for an eternity with God.

Regarding other "faiths", I recently read a great book titled the "Kite Flyer" written by Khaled Hosseini about a muslim man born in Afghanistan and who later immigrated to America after the Russians invaded in the 1980's. The book for me was about the search for redemption. The story's main character Amir, the privileged son of a wealthy businessman in Kabul, was weak as a child and made many mistakes. He spent much of his life seeking redemption for those sins and eventually, finds a way to become "good". Ah, but here is the rub. Although he commits all his energy and risks everything to become "good", it isn't enough. He is still Amir, a changed man but a man who still has the burden of sin in his life. I'd recommend the book to anyone even though it is written by and about a muslim because for me, it is an exposing story about life in Afghanistan (1960 thru present day), explains why there was a need to rid the world of the Taliban but more importantly, it shows that many seek redemption on their own but are unable to find it.

So there it is. Why do I believe God? All I have to do is look at HIS creation, which is the world around me and into my own conscienceness. Why do I believe Jesus Christ? ...because God would NOT have left us without a Redeemer. It is a journey, which for me, started with accepting the existence of a Creator and then progressed to accepting the TRUTH that HE provided us a Redeemer since we are unable to do it on our own.

You tie our hands and say not to use Scripture? Well friend, that's not any more fair than if I told you to prove George Washington was at Trenton, New Jersey without the written testimony of those who were there. Come on Inti... that just doesn't make any sense. The Bible is written history! It is the most effective tool for the Christian apologist, written by many over 1600 years unlike the Koran, which was written by one man.

Therefore, ask your questions but I ask that you not ignore or put down those people who take their time to respond to you with Scripture. Okay? ...and if you are honest and seek the TRUTH, it will show in how you respond to those who try to reach out to you. What do you fear?

May the Lord Bless you richly,

Wayne