Jesus in the Old Testament

[Hopefully]

An Old Testament only believer once told me Jesus was not in the Old Testament but he’s there in case you need it.

 

“Who really believed what we heard? Who saw in it the Lord’s great power? He was always close to the Lord. He grew up like a young plant, like a root growing in dry ground. There was nothing special or impressive about the way he looked, nothing we could see that would cause us to like him.

People made fun of him, and even his friends left him. He was a man who suffered a lot of pain and sickness. We treated him like someone of no importance, like someone people will not even look at but turn away from in disgust.

The fact is, it was our suffering he took on himself; he bore our pain. But we thought that God was punishing him, that God was beating him for something he did. But he was being punished for what we did. He was crushed because of our guilt. He took the punishment we deserved, and this brought us peace.

We were healed because of his pain. We had all wandered away like sheep. We had gone our own way. And yet the Lord put all our guilt on him. He was treated badly, but he never protested. He said nothing, like a lamb being led away to be killed. He was like a sheep that makes no sound as its wool is being cut off.

He never opened his mouth to defend himself. He was taken away by force and judged unfairly. The people of his time did not even notice that he was killed. But he was put to death for the sins of his people. He had done no wrong to anyone. He had never even told a lie. But he was buried among the wicked.

His tomb was with the rich. But the Lord was pleased with this humble servant who suffered such pain. Even after giving himself as an offering for sin, he will see his descendants and enjoy a long life. He will succeed in doing what the Lord wanted. After his suffering he will see the light, and he will be satisfied with what he experienced.

The Lord says, “My servant, who always does what is right, will make his people right with me; he will take away their sins. For this reason, I will treat him as one of my great people. I will give him the rewards of one who wins in battle, and he will share them with his powerful ones. I will do this because he gave his life for the people.

He was considered a criminal, but the truth is, he carried away the sins of many. Now he will stand before me and speak for those who have sinned.””
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:1-12‬ ‭

[Hopefully]

“Whoever does not believe in the Son does not have the Father, but whoever accepts the Son has the Father too.

Be sure that you continue to follow the teaching you heard from the beginning. If you do that, you will always be in the Son and in the Father. And this is what the Son promised us—eternal life. I am writing this letter about those who are trying to lead you into the wrong way.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:23-26‬ ‭

[Michael37]

4 hours ago, Hopefully said:

An Old Testament only believer once told me Jesus was not in the Old Testament but he’s there in case you need it.

1Pe 1:10-12  Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you,  (11)  searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.  (12)  To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things which angels desire to look into.

[Hopefully]

@Michael37 thank you. Some groups will not accept anything but the Old Testament. I was trying to show Jesus is mentioned within the Old Testament. 

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, Hopefully said:

@Michael37 thank you. Some groups will not accept anything but the Old Testament. I was trying to show Jesus is mentioned within the Old Testament. 

He's not just mentioned in the OT, He is present in the things it speaks of.

[Ancient]

Yeshua is the word. He is Gen all the way through Rev. 

NKJ John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

NKJ John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. 

Those who say the old testament is irrelevant or done away with are essentially saying Yeshua is doing away with Himself and God. 

Not saying this has been said on this thread but there are many who hold to this view.

Shalom

[Hopefully]

5 minutes ago, Ancient said:

Those who say the old testament is irrelevant or done away with are essentially saying Yeshua is doing away with Himself and God. 

This post is speaking to those who believe the New Testament is irrelevant. Because they believe this you cannot show them New Testament to prove anything about anything.

This is why I specifically named the thread Jesus in the Old Testament and showed the Old Testament speaking of him.

[Ancient]

2 minutes ago, Hopefully said:

This post is speaking to those who believe the New Testament is irrelevant. Because they believe this you cannot show them New Testament to prove anything about anything.

This is why I specifically named the thread Jesus in the Old Testament and showed the Old Testament speaking of him.

Do you think there are people on this forum that believe that? I would be surprised if there were many. But I do get surprised from time to time.

Shalom

[Ancient]

5 minutes ago, Hopefully said:

This post is speaking to those who believe the New Testament is irrelevant. Because they believe this you cannot show them New Testament to prove anything about anything.

This is why I specifically named the thread Jesus in the Old Testament and showed the Old Testament speaking of him.

I learnt this a long time ago. The Old is the New concealed and the New is the Old revealed. 

Shalom

[Hopefully]

1 minute ago, Ancient said:

Do you think there are people on this forum that believe that?

I think there are people in this forum who may encounter or already have encountered these groups on or offline. 
 

I think people often assume people believe in Jesus just because they are reading from the Old Testament not realizing some never leave it. 
 

some people don’t know there are people who only believe the Old Testament.