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Why does Israel rule over the nations in the Lord's land? 

https://biblehub.com/isaiah/14-2.htm

 

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Answer can be found in Revelation!!! 

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Does anyone know where the Lord's land is, or it's boundaries? 

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3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Does anyone know where the Lord's land is, or it's boundaries? 

The boundaries today?  Or the boundaries given to Abraham and Joshua  in the Bible?

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For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will still choose Israel, and settle them in their own land. The strangers will be joined with them, and they will cling to the house of Jacob. Then people will take them and bring them to their place, and the house of Israel will possess them for servants and maids in the land of the LORD; they will take them captive whose captives they were, and rule over their oppressors.

- Isaiah 14:1-2

Here’s my understanding from the scriptures above:

The natural seed is "Jacob," which includes all of the tribes of both Judah and Israel.  All of the tribes will be chosen by God (Revelation 21) and all will be allies of Christ. The countries' rulers and queens (the Gentile nations) will, from this point on, join together with Christ and will aid the tribes in their return to their homeland. Ezekiel 44 states that God's elect shall reign and rule as part of their heritage.  This is the Millennium age.  This is when everyone on the planet will worship Jesus Christ as the Messiah.  Jesus Christ will build His Kingdom here on earth and the Gentiles are referred to as “the strangers.” (Our Father loves all of His children, both the Gentiles and Jacob alike.)

Taking hostage and enslaving others is not what we think of today.  In other words, it’s like how you have taken someone prisoner or captive in the service of the Lord when you plant a seed of God's Word in another's mind and the Holy Spirit takes over.  This is a perfectly good thing, and we should all be proud to be servants and slaves in our Lord’s service.

in Christ, Selah 

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1 hour ago, Selah7 said:

For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will still choose Israel, and settle them in their own land. The strangers will be joined with them, and they will cling to the house of Jacob. Then people will take them and bring them to their place, and the house of Israel will possess them for servants and maids in the land of the LORD; they will take them captive whose captives they were, and rule over their oppressors.

- Isaiah 14:1-2

Here’s my understanding from the scriptures above:

The natural seed is "Jacob," which includes all of the tribes of both Judah and Israel.  All of the tribes will be chosen by God (Revelation 21) and all will be allies of Christ. The countries' rulers and queens (the Gentile nations) will, from this point on, join together with Christ and will aid the tribes in their return to their homeland. Ezekiel 44 states that God's elect shall reign and rule as part of their heritage.  This is the Millennium age.  This is when everyone on the planet will worship Jesus Christ as the Messiah.  Jesus Christ will build His Kingdom here on earth and the Gentiles are referred to as “the strangers.” (Our Father loves all of His children, both the Gentiles and Jacob alike.)

Taking hostage and enslaving others is not what we think of today.  In other words, it’s like how you have taken someone prisoner or captive in the service of the Lord when you plant a seed of God's Word in another's mind and the Holy Spirit takes over.  This is a perfectly good thing, and we should all be proud to be servants and slaves in our Lord’s service.

in Christ, Selah 

So we agree that israel reigns over the nations in the Lord's land during the millinium.

Now what does revelation say about those who reign in the Lord's land during the millinium and why they are chosen to reign? 

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2 hours ago, Jayne said:

The boundaries today?  Or the boundaries given to Abraham and Joshua  in the Bible?

It would be the boundaries promised to Abrahams and his seed. 

https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-16.htm

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1 hour ago, Selah7 said:

For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will still choose Israel, and settle them in their own land. The strangers will be joined with them, and they will cling to the house of Jacob. Then people will take them and bring them to their place, and the house of Israel will possess them for servants and maids in the land of the LORD; they will take them captive whose captives they were, and rule over their oppressors.

- Isaiah 14:1-2

Here’s my understanding from the scriptures above:

The natural seed is "Jacob," which includes all of the tribes of both Judah and Israel.  All of the tribes will be chosen by God (Revelation 21) and all will be allies of Christ. The countries' rulers and queens (the Gentile nations) will, from this point on, join together with Christ and will aid the tribes in their return to their homeland. Ezekiel 44 states that God's elect shall reign and rule as part of their heritage.  This is the Millennium age.  This is when everyone on the planet will worship Jesus Christ as the Messiah.  Jesus Christ will build His Kingdom here on earth and the Gentiles are referred to as “the strangers.” (Our Father loves all of His children, both the Gentiles and Jacob alike.)

Taking hostage and enslaving others is not what we think of today.  In other words, it’s like how you have taken someone prisoner or captive in the service of the Lord when you plant a seed of God's Word in another's mind and the Holy Spirit takes over.  This is a perfectly good thing, and we should all be proud to be servants and slaves in our Lord’s service.

in Christ, Selah 

PS, I also see Israel reigning over the nations as a good thing. I whole heartedly believe they deserve it after what they endure. 

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On 5/20/2022 at 8:27 PM, Selah7 said:

For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will still choose Israel, and settle them in their own land. The strangers will be joined with them, and they will cling to the house of Jacob. Then people will take them and bring them to their place, and the house of Israel will possess them for servants and maids in the land of the LORD; they will take them captive whose captives they were, and rule over their oppressors.

- Isaiah 14:1-2

Here’s my understanding from the scriptures above:

The natural seed is "Jacob," which includes all of the tribes of both Judah and Israel.  All of the tribes will be chosen by God (Revelation 21) and all will be allies of Christ. The countries' rulers and queens (the Gentile nations) will, from this point on, join together with Christ and will aid the tribes in their return to their homeland. Ezekiel 44 states that God's elect shall reign and rule as part of their heritage.  This is the Millennium age.  This is when everyone on the planet will worship Jesus Christ as the Messiah.  Jesus Christ will build His Kingdom here on earth and the Gentiles are referred to as “the strangers.” (Our Father loves all of His children, both the Gentiles and Jacob alike.)

Taking hostage and enslaving others is not what we think of today.  In other words, it’s like how you have taken someone prisoner or captive in the service of the Lord when you plant a seed of God's Word in another's mind and the Holy Spirit takes over.  This is a perfectly good thing, and we should all be proud to be servants and slaves in our Lord’s service.

in Christ, Selah 

Anyways, this is what Israel's saints endure before they reign in the Lord's land. 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/20-4.htm

I saw thrones on which were seated those who were given authority to judge.And I saw the soul's who had been beheaded for thier witness of Jesus and for the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not recieved its mark in thier foreheads or in thier hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for 1000 years. 

 

That is what the saints in Israel endure. 

Persecuted from town to town in Israel, rejected by thier own people and betrayed to death by thier own parents and children. 

No wonder they did not love thier lives to the death. 

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6 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Anyways, this is what Israel's saints endure before they reign in the Lord's land. 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/20-4.htm

I saw thrones on which were seated those who were given authority to judge.And I saw the soul's who had been beheaded for thier witness of Jesus and for the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not recieved its mark in thier foreheads or in thier hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for 1000 years. 

 

That is what the saints in Israel endure. 

Persecuted from town to town in Israel, rejected by thier own people and betrayed to death by thier own parents and children. 

No wonder they did not love thier lives to the death. 

"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name"

Because the word 'pas' is used it indicates each individual part of the whole. There are rich and poor, free and bond, small and great everywhere across the world. This isn't limited to a region. If this isn't neither is Rev 20.

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8 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Persecuted from town to town in Israel, rejected by thier own people and betrayed to death by thier own parents and children. 

No wonder they did not love thier lives to the death. 

I believe this scripture is referring to the elect saints and the two witnesses.  What say you?  Thanks, Shiloh.

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