kwikphilly Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.60 Reputation: 27,843 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, creativemechanic said: No offense to you but I personally HATE to hear people try to equate these 2 together. A relationship with God and a human relationship are 2 different entities each with its own benefits. As far as I know, the Bible never makes them out to be the same.People need to stop trying to say 1 can replace the other. Some people can live alone and be completely fulfilled with their relatiopnship with God and theres nothing wrong with that. But people need to stop acting like you shouldnt want to be married because you have Jesus. God is invisible, inaudible and intangible, so there are plenty of things in a marriage that you wont get from your relationship with God- physical company, emotional support, sex etc and the bible in various verses speaks on the merits of these things. Saying things like that can be very insensitive to people who want to get married because it makes it seem like they shouldnt want something the Bible says is good. Hi creative Well your probably getting some " push back " just from starting out as you did,HATE is a pretty strong word.....and capitalized at that so its quite obvious that Lady & I struck a nerve just because..... Hmmm,what? Is it because you need/want more of a physical relationship than she and I both have no desire of? Neither of us ever suggested what is good for us should be for anyone else ,its personal- we've both been through some pretty horrible experiences and we are at Peace alone with our Lord & Savior.... For me,I never wanted to leave my earthly Dad to get married in the furst placed( 1st time around)so now,nearly 45 years later I'm very much at home with my Heavenly Father,I dont need Him to be sitting on the couch next to me in a physical body to see hear or feel Him with me be cause I do see,hear & feel His Loving Embrace..... And that is for ME So if you HATE what I'm saying then thats on you There's a big difference between being alone and being lonely,I'm not lonely and dont need anyone to fill any void- no doubt others may be quite lonely without a mate.. Did that/ been there- its suffocating for me God Bless you & I'm thrilled you have a wonderful match to spend your time on this earth with,I hope the same Blessing for anyone with the same hearts desire Edited July 1, 2022 by kwikphilly 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creativemechanic Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, kwikphilly said: Hi creative Well your probably getting some " push back " just from starting out as you did,HATE is a pretty strong word.....and capitalized at that so its quite obvious that Lady & I struck a nerve just because..... Hmmm,what? Is it because you need/want more of a physical relationship than she and I both have no desire of? Neither of us ever suggested what is good for us should be for anyone else ,its personal- we've both been through some pretty horrible experiences and we are at Peace alone with our Lord & Savior.... For me,I never wanted to leave my earthly Dad to get married in the furst placed( 1st time around)so now,nearly 45 years later I'm very much at home with my Heavenly Father,I dont need Him to be sitting on the couch next to me in a physical body to see hear or feel Him with me be cause I do see,hear & feel His Loving Embrace..... And that is for ME So if you HATE what I'm saying then thats on you There's a big difference between being alone and being lonely,I'm not lonely and dont need anyone to fill any void- no doubt others may be quite lonely without a mate.. Did that/ been there- its suffocating for me God Bless you & I'm thrilled you have a wonderful match to spend your time on this earth with,I hope the same Blessing for anyone with the same hearts desire I think Ive been misinterpreted. Some people will never marry because God doesnt have that for them in their lives and some people will be content and happy with their singleness. Nothing wrong with that. God knows whats best for them. What my issue is when people make it out that a relationship and God and an intimate relationship with another are exactly the same thing. Theyre not. What i once saw was in another Christian forum a woman saying she was wishing for a husband and someone told her you have a relationship with Jesus, isnt that enough. It was like he was trying to guilt her for wanting something totally human and natural. When God created man, he acknowledged the benefit of a spouse-"Its not good for man to be alone" and the bible in different places points out marriage as a positive thing. A relationship with God and one with a human being are two totally different types of relationships so we shouldnt try to act like one has the exact same dynamic and benefits as the other, the bible never does (as far as I know). Since we cant hear, touch or see God, the relationship dynamic with Him and a spouse that is visible, audible and tangible will be different. There are things we can do with one you cant do with the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,401 Content Per Day: 7.13 Reputation: 13,497 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Starise said: I guess it was a bit HIPPOcritical of me to post something funny when I said the subject wasn't funny. Oh wait...that probably wasn't funny. It took me an hour to get it. Outstanding! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.60 Reputation: 27,843 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, creativemechanic said: I think Ive been misinterpreted. Some people will never marry because God doesnt have that for them in their lives and some people will be content and happy with their singleness. Nothing wrong with that. God knows whats best for them. What my issue is when people make it out that a relationship and God and an intimate relationship with another are exactly the same thing. Theyre not. What i once saw was in another Christian forum a woman saying she was wishing for a husband and someone told her you have a relationship with Jesus, isnt that enough. It was like he was trying to guilt her for wanting something totally human and natural. When God created man, he acknowledged the benefit of a spouse-"Its not good for man to be alone" and the bible in different places points out marriage as a positive thing. A relationship with God and one with a human being are two totally different types of relationships so we shouldnt try to act like one has the exact same dynamic and benefits as the other, the bible never does (as far as I know). Since we cant hear, touch or see God, the relationship dynamic with Him and a spouse that is visible, audible and tangible will be different. There are things we can do with one you cant do with the other. Hi again.... And I think I can speak for Lady,Starise,Marathoner and probably every one else here, besides myself.... We completely agree with that and never even insinuated any such thing as that Christian Lady from another Forum( lol) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,401 Content Per Day: 7.13 Reputation: 13,497 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, kwikphilly said: Hi creative Well your probably getting some " push back " just from starting out as you did,HATE is a pretty strong word.....and capitalized at that so its quite obvious that Lady & I struck a nerve just because..... Hmmm,what? Is it because you need/want more of a physical relationship than she and I both have no desire of? Neither of us ever suggested what is good for us should be for anyone else ,its personal- we've both been through some pretty horrible experiences and we are at Peace alone with our Lord & Savior.... For me,I never wanted to leave my earthly Dad to get married in the furst placed( 1st time around)so now,nearly 45 years later I'm very much at home with my Heavenly Father,I dont need Him to be sitting on the couch next to me in a physical body to see hear or feel Him with me be cause I do see,hear & feel His Loving Embrace..... And that is for ME So if you HATE what I'm saying then thats on you There's a big difference between being alone and being lonely,I'm not lonely and dont need anyone to fill any void- no doubt others may be quite lonely without a mate.. Did that/ been there- its suffocating for me God Bless you & I'm thrilled you have a wonderful match to spend your time on this earth with,I hope the same Blessing for anyone with the same hearts desire Couldn't have expressed it better myself! Been there, done that: Broke the mug; Burned the t-shirt; Locked the door; Turned off the phone; And burned the toast. Jesus Christ is my Lord and God and if He says that I'm going to marry someone, I'll do what He says with joy and thanksgiving. That's what it would take. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.60 Reputation: 27,843 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Marathoner said: Couldn't have expressed it better myself! Been there, done that: Broke the mug; Burned the t-shirt; Locked the door; Turned off the phone; And burned the toast. Jesus Christ is my Lord and God and if He says that I'm going to marry someone, I'll do what He says with joy and thanksgiving. That's what it would take. You know some thing Brother,I really believed its what God Wanted for me this last time around and then especially with the lung cancer and being disabled I thought" Oh Wow,God Sent Help"- I mean I could hardly walk( & breathings no picnic either) When there was no help I was very confused.. . I prayed & prayed & prayed and then finally I heard" Pick up your mat!" That blew me away and sent me right back to what ,( or rather WHO) has gotten me through all my difficulties and I guess I can linp, hop or even crawl but " get er done" BUT " I can do ALL things in Christ Who Strengthens me" so maybe I got it wrong,,He did send me a provider but not a physical helper.... I dont know,I truly dont - I dont really like to be so distrusting but after being lied to so much........I think I'll stop talking. Lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie744 Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,700 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 863 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2020 Status: Online Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Starise said: I guess it was a bit HIPPOcritical of me to post something funny when I said the subject wasn't funny. Oh wait...that probably wasn't funny. Someone earlier in the post mentioned that there are two sides of each he story… Starwise…. I believe we might be seeing “the other side of the story” 🧐…… just kidding of course, Charlie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,401 Content Per Day: 7.13 Reputation: 13,497 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, kwikphilly said: You know some thing Brother,I really believed its what God Wanted for me this last time around and then especially with the lung cancer and being disabled I thought" Oh Wow,God Sent Help"- I mean I could hardly walk( & breathings no picnic either) When there was no help I was very confused.. . I prayed & prayed & prayed and then finally I heard" Pick up your mat!" That blew me away and sent me right back to what ,( or rather WHO) has gotten me through all my difficulties and I guess I can linp, hop or even crawl but " get er done" BUT " I can do ALL things in Christ Who Strengthens me" so maybe I got it wrong,,He did send me a provider but not a physical helper.... I dont know,I truly dont - I dont really like to be so distrusting but after being lied to so much........I think I'll stop talking. Lol You're an inspiration. I confess to some bellyaching about the prospect of having my esophagus dilated on a regular basis (they put you under for the procedure and you stay in the hospital overnight) to avoid living with a feeding tube for the rest of my days. I would need a feeding tube to survive because the ol' stomach chute doesn't open wide enough to permit the passage of even the tiniest pill. That's caused by the muscular dystrophy I have. Certain muscles in my throat don't work anymore. Dilation would temporarily open the esophagus wide enough so I could eat food like a normal person, but it would have to be done on a regular basis until my time on earth is finished. In this way, I would share something in common with people on dialysis. I saw it in those "movies" the radiologist made during my swallowing study. It was sobering to witness. It opened up all of the old wounds from that time when I was so sick with Lyme disease that I begged the Lord to destroy me. He refused to do that. What does He tell me now? Look at my right hand, and remember when I thought I was dead. My right hand was broken on that day when I thought I was going to die (it's a bit misshapen). The Lord was with me even then, and He promised to never leave me. Our Lord Jesus Christ is both faithful and true, and He hasn't left me. His word is trustworthy. I have nothing to whine about! Whatever befalls me is His will. It's not like I haven't faced hard things before, right? Right! He also tells me to consider your example. You're an inspiration to me, kwik. Edited July 1, 2022 by Marathoner Typo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.60 Reputation: 27,843 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Marathoner said: You're an inspiration. I confess to some bellyaching about the prospect of having my esophagus dilated on a regular basis (they put you under for the procedure and you stay in the hospital overnight) to avoid living with a feeding tube for the rest of my days. I would need a feeding tube to survive because the ol' stomach chute doesn't open wide enough to permit the passage of even the tiniest pill. That's caused by the muscular dystrophy I have. Certain muscles in my throat don't work anymore. Dilation would temporarily open the esophagus wide enough so I could eat food like a normal person, but it would have to be done on a regular basis until my time on earth is finished. In this way, I would share something in common with people on dialysis. I saw it in those "movies" the radiologist made during my swallowing study. It was sobering to witness. It opened up all of the old wounds from that time when I was so sick with Lyme disease that I begged the Lord to destroy me. He refused to do that. What does He tell me now? Look at my right hand, and remember when I thought I was dead. My right hand was broken on that day when I thought I was going to die (it's a bit misshapen). The Lord was with me even then, and He promised to never leave me. Our Lord Jesus Christ is both faithful and true, and He hasn't left me. His word is trustworthy. I have nothing to whine about! Whatever befalls me is His will. It's not like I haven't faced hard things before, right? Right! He also tells me to consider your example. You're an inspiration to me, kwik. Crazy.... I consider what you deal with and I'm inspired. I feel like I have nothing when I think about muscular dystrophy( especially with the esophagus)... The first time the pet scan showed this lung cancer ( the big tumor)there was also a spot on the throat and the other lung... The throat had me most troubled,I do enjoy food and speaking! Seems it might have been an inflammation or whatever but its pretty insignificant. My cousin had throat cancer,what he endured before he died was horrific Anyway- you lift me up ALL the time- God Bless you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted July 1, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.60 Reputation: 27,843 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, Charlie744 said: Someone earlier in the post mentioned that there are two sides of each he story… Starwise…. I believe we might be seeing “the other side of the story” 🧐…… just kidding of course, Charlie Of course there is Charlie There is the wrong side vs my side Just kidding 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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