choir loft Posted December 31, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,224 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 338 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/10/1947 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 Is it possible that there was more than one Eve, and more than one Adam? Let us make man in our own image. It doesn't say a man, and a woman. It's almost as though it was about mankind. Was there likely more than one Eve, and more than one Adam? You are presently speculating upon a text and a subject that is foreign to you. Hence you write without logic or accuracy. The phrase you wrote 'let us make man in our image' is a quote from Genesis 1:26 - the story of the creation of man. The "image of God" is the subject of most importance in Genesis 1-3 for it was lost to Eve and Adam following their SIN against God's Word. They died because they ate the forbidden fruit, the name of which I suppose is opinion. "in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (the Temptor quoted in Genesis 3:5b) 'Knowing good and evil' is a reference to SINFUL opinion, which contradicts God's Word. God isn't interested in our opinions, but in our duty and obedience. Few know or admit to the nature of the image of God. Fewer still possess it. References to it disappear from Biblical script following the eviction of Eve and Adam from Eden and their subsequent deaths. It isn't seen again until the New Covenant is written. The Son is the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15a) JESUS is the image of God. All who accept Him into their lives and are blessed of the Second Birth are born again of Christ, of the Image of God. THIS is the nature of immortal life that is the blessed hope and promise of God the Father. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choir loft Posted December 31, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,224 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 338 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/10/1947 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) On 12/29/2022 at 2:42 AM, BeyondET said: Nor aliens, the nephilim were on the earth back in the day. Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown. "Sons of God" is a reference to human men, not angels. The Bible clearly states angels do not have sexual relations with human women. Jesus affirmed this in quotes from Mark 12, Matthew 22 & Luke 20. Nephilim were large men, not hybrids resulting from angelic and human fornication. Some people today prefer to imagine flying saucers in the Bible instead of READING IT. (*) that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (*) Erich von Daniken, in his book Chariots of the Gods, speculated that aliens built the fortress of Sacsayhuaman on the ridge above Cusco, Peru. I've been there and put my hands on that wall and can testify it was made by very clever Incan artisans. von Daniken also speculated the vision Ezekiel 3 describes by the river Chebar was an alien vehicle and not the shekinah glory of God. Inasmuch as von Daniken was more interested in selling his preposterous book rather than Biblical scholarship he would have noticed the SAME shekinah glory also appeared to Ezekiel inside the temple of God in Jerusalem. If true according to von Daniken, then aliens were using the Jerusalem temple as a spacecraft hanger. Not true, in fact because von Dankien's reputation also included imprisonment for several counts of fraud and embezzlement. von Daniken was a proven and convicted liar, cheat and thief. His suppositions are not to be believed. Edited December 31, 2022 by choir loft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted December 31, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,881 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, choir loft said: "Sons of God" is a reference to human men, not angels. The Bible clearly states angels do not have sexual relations with human women. Jesus affirmed this in quotes from Mark 12, Matthew 22 & Luke 20. Nephilim were large men, not hybrids resulting from angelic and human fornication. Some people today prefer to imagine flying saucers in the Bible instead of READING IT. (*) that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (*) Erich von Daniken, in his book Chariots of the Gods, speculated that aliens built the fortress of Sacsayhuaman on the ridge above Cusco, Peru. I've been there and put my hands on that wall and can testify it was made by very clever Incan artisans. von Daniken also speculated the vision Ezekiel 3 describes by the river Chebar was an alien vehicle and not the shekinah glory of God. Inasmuch as von Daniken was more interested in selling his preposterous book rather than Biblical scholarship he would have noticed the SAME shekinah glory also appeared to Ezekiel inside the temple of God in Jerusalem. If true according to von Daniken, then aliens were using the Jerusalem temple as a spacecraft hanger. Not true, in fact because von Dankien's reputation also included imprisonment for several counts of fraud and embezzlement. von Daniken was a proven and convicted liar, cheat and thief. His suppositions are not to be believed. Yea I'm not one who thinks the nephilim were angels or partly. In my opinion the sons of God was Cain descendents. Lamech was the first to violate the marriage order taken multiple wives, daughters of men. Of whom the mighty men of a old lineage. Edited December 31, 2022 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choir loft Posted December 31, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,224 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 338 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/10/1947 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 3 hours ago, BeyondET said: Yea I'm not one who thinks the nephilim were angels or partly. In my opinion the sons of God was Cain descendents. Lamech was the first to violate the marriage order taken multiple wives, daughters of men. Of whom the mighty men of a old lineage. It's about context context context. Context is how we arrive at an accurate definition of terms used in the Bible as well as our own time. How a phrase or word is used can be properly understood within the context of its use. The phrase 'sons of God' and 'daughters of God or daughters of men' is used throughout the Bible. Even Jesus used the term. It generally refers to human beings of the male and female gender. It NEVER refers to angels or demons. You wrote that Cain's descendants were sons of God. This is a correct assumption based upon Biblical context. It means nothing specially spiritual or prophetic, however. Those whose opinion suggests some sort of sexual soiree between spiritual entities and humans are vainly mistaken. They'd be better off surfing over to the porn channel for their entertainment. It simply isn't Biblical. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 31, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,265 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,993 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 31, 2022 Just to note that myself and a lot of very educated people disagree about the Sons of God being humans until we were allowed to be spiritually born because of the actions of Jesus.. With the exception of Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted December 31, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,881 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted December 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, other one said: Just to note that myself and a lot of very educated people disagree about the Sons of God being humans until we were allowed to be spiritually born because of the actions of Jesus.. With the exception of Adam. I don't think it was capitalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 31, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,265 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,993 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, BeyondET said: I don't think it was capitalized. Hebrew has no capitals, and the Greek manuscripts were all caps from what I have read, so the English caps are just the translators doings. Basically makes no difference from my point of view in these cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted December 31, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,881 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, other one said: Hebrew has no capitals, and the Greek manuscripts were all caps from what I have read, so the English caps are just the translators doings. Basically makes no difference from my point of view in these cases. Correct but the word of God in all languages is true and used accordingly. You seem to know that hence the Sons of God. Edited December 31, 2022 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeFivew Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 160 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/23/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 9:23 PM, choir loft said: Is it possible that there was more than one Eve, and more than one Adam? Let us make man in our own image. It doesn't say a man, and a woman. It's almost as though it was about mankind. Was there likely more than one Eve, and more than one Adam? You are presently speculating upon a text and a subject that is foreign to you. Hence you write without logic or accuracy. The phrase you wrote 'let us make man in our image' is a quote from Genesis 1:26 - the story of the creation of man. The "image of God" is the subject of most importance in Genesis 1-3 for it was lost to Eve and Adam following their SIN against God's Word. They died because they ate the forbidden fruit, the name of which I suppose is opinion. "in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (the Temptor quoted in Genesis 3:5b) 'Knowing good and evil' is a reference to SINFUL opinion, which contradicts God's Word. God isn't interested in our opinions, but in our duty and obedience. Few know or admit to the nature of the image of God. Fewer still possess it. References to it disappear from Biblical script following the eviction of Eve and Adam from Eden and their subsequent deaths. It isn't seen again until the New Covenant is written. The Son is the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15a) JESUS is the image of God. All who accept Him into their lives and are blessed of the Second Birth are born again of Christ, of the Image of God. THIS is the nature of immortal life that is the blessed hope and promise of God the Father. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... I didn't give an opinion. I just asked a question. I don't know. I asked if there could've been more than one Eve. I have heard people say that Eve and Adam are used figuratively. I don't know. Asking a question is not giving an opinion. It is foreign. I don't know. I didn't state it as though it's a fact. I asked thinking that maybe it would be his way of creating at a faster pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,265 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,993 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 9:28 PM, choir loft said: Sons of God" is a reference to human men, not angels. I would disagree with that. Ive had personal experience with the spirits of the Nephilim. Most people call them demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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