Looking for Jesus according to John

[The_Patriot21]

Just out of curiosity but why do you post like this? I see 6 pages of you posting scripture, that no one reads, and that's just this post alone. 

I am not trying to be rude, but people get onto forums to discuss things, not read a novel. Perhaps posting much shorter topics, geared towards getting feedback and discussion may actually help you get your message across better then your current method.

 

[JLG]

5 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Just out of curiosity but why do you post like this? I see 6 pages of you posting scripture, that no one reads, and that's just this post alone. 

I am not trying to be rude, but people get onto forums to discuss things, not read a novel. Perhaps posting much shorter topics, geared towards getting feedback and discussion may actually help you get your message across better then your current method.

 

- I am not a turtle!

- I am more a greyhound!

- I have been publishing on the internet for 14 months now!

- I have been increasing my activity a lot!

- I used to publishing some of my discussions just to show that I have discussions!

- But i keep learning a lot so it means I logically publish a lot!

- The Pharisees told the apostles to stop speaking!

- No way!

- The more i learn the more i want to learn and tell about!

- I understand it may be a lot for some!

- But I can see that in some cases there are people waiting for my writings, it doesn't matter how much!

- I prefer to satisfy those who are waiting for my writings!

- Moreover, there is no obligation to read my threads!

- Each one is free to read at his own speed!

- You can't satisfy everyone!

- Was Jesus a greyhound or a turtle when he was on earth?

- What do do think he would answer?

- When you work for God, is there a limit?

 

[The_Patriot21]

2 hours ago, JLG said:

- I am not a turtle!

- I am more a greyhound!

- I have been publishing on the internet for 14 months now!

- I have been increasing my activity a lot!

- I used to publishing some of my discussions just to show that I have discussions!

- But i keep learning a lot so it means I logically publish a lot!

- The Pharisees told the apostles to stop speaking!

- No way!

- The more i learn the more i want to learn and tell about!

- I understand it may be a lot for some!

- But I can see that in some cases there are people waiting for my writings, it doesn't matter how much!

- I prefer to satisfy those who are waiting for my writings!

- Moreover, there is no obligation to read my threads!

- Each one is free to read at his own speed!

- You can't satisfy everyone!

- Was Jesus a greyhound or a turtle when he was on earth?

- What do do think he would answer?

- When you work for God, is there a limit?

 

I never said you should stop posting, I'm just making a suggestion so that you can get more people to read your posts. A forum isn't a college ground, the vast majority of people arnt going to read a book on a forum.

All I'm doing is suggesting you shorten your posts, and perhaps add in some questions to encourage people to read and discuss.

As right now I see lots and lots of pages of stuff that no one is reading or discussing...I would like to see that change in your favor.

But, if you'd rather everyone ignore you because they don't have time to read your endless monologues, that of course is your choice.

[JLG]

5 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

I never said you should stop posting, I'm just making a suggestion so that you can get more people to read your posts. A forum isn't a college ground, the vast majority of people arnt going to read a book on a forum.

All I'm doing is suggesting you shorten your posts, and perhaps add in some questions to encourage people to read and discuss.

As right now I see lots and lots of pages of stuff that no one is reading or discussing...I would like to see that change in your favor.

But, if you'd rather everyone ignore you because they don't have time to read your endless monologues, that of course is your choice.

- It's not a question of ignoring what you say!

- I keep digging and digging!

- Once again people are free to read at their own speed!

- Sometimes people participate a long time after I wrote a page!

- Sometimes you need to digest!

- The pages are there so people can go back whenever they want!

- But I must go on!

- It's just I am going faster and faster!

[JLG]

33) Looking for Jesus

 

John 5: Jesus answers them that the Son can’t do

a single thing of his own initiative but only what

he sees the Father doing. He does like his Father!

 

- When we think about a father and his son, when

the son is young, he tries to copy his father and

gradually he wants to become independent and

act as it pleases himself!

 

- It is completely different from the relationship

between God and Jesus because Jesus doesn’t want

to become independent, he wants to do like his

Father in like manner!

 

- They have spent so much time together!

 

- They have made so many things together!

 

- He has sent his son to the earth to die for men!

 

- he will come back on earth to make his Father’s

will!

 

- Thus it is difficult for men to understand such a

deep relationship!

 

- With men, nothing lasts!

 

- Usually fathers and sons have difficulties to

understand each other!

[JLG]

34) Looking for Jesus

 

John 5: For the Father has affection for the Son

and shows him all the things he himself does,

and he will show him works greater than these,

so that you may marvel. For just as the Father

raises the dead up and makes them alive, so the

Son also makes alive whomever he wants to. For

the Father judges no one at all, but he has

entrusted all the judging to the Son, so that all

may honor the Son just as they honor the Father.

Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor

the Father who sent him.

 

- definition of affection: a feeling of liking and

caring for someone or something : tender

attachment : fondness She had a deep affection

for her parents.

 

- God and Jesus care for each other!

 

- “God shows the Son all the things he himself

does”!

 

- Here again there is a big difference because the

Father shows the son ALL the things he himself

does!

 

- It is so different from a normal father son

relationship that people can’t understand it!

 

- Probably because men are used to make gods at

their own image like the ancient Greek!

 

- But this is no Greek philosophy!

 

- It goes far beyond basic human philosophy!

[JLG]

35) Looking for Jesus

 

John 5: Most truly I say to you, whoever hears

my word and believes the One who sent me has

everlasting life, and he does not come into

judgment but has passed over from death to life.

 

- First we need to hear Jesus’ word!

 

- Then we must believe the one who sent Jesus!

 

- Then we can get everlasting life!

 

- We can speak about a summary!

 

G191

akouō (Key)

to be endowed with the faculty of hearing, not deaf

1. to hear

   1. to attend to, consider what is or has been said

   2. to understand, perceive the sense of what is said

2. to hear something

   1. to perceive by the ear what is announced in one's presence

   2. to get by hearing learn

   3. a thing comes to one's ears, to find out, learn

   4. to give ear to a teaching or a teacher

   5. to comprehend, to understand

G4100

pisteuō (Key)

to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in

1. 1. of the thing believed

      1. to credit, have confidence

   2. in a moral or religious reference

      1. used in the NT of the conviction and trust to which a man is impelled by a certain inner and higher prerogative and law of soul

      2. to trust in Jesus or God as able to aid either in obtaining or in doing something: saving faith

      3. mere acknowledgment of some fact or event: intellectual faith

2. to entrust a thing to one, i.e. his fidelity

   1. to be entrusted with a thing

- IT MEANS FAR MORE THAN JUST ONE WORD!

 

[JLG]

36) Looking for Jesus

 

John 5: “Most truly I say to you, the hour is coming,

and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of

the Son of God, and those who have paid attention

will live. For just as the Father has life in himself,

so he has granted also to the Son to have life in

himself. And he has given him authority to do

judging, because he is the Son of man. Do not

be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in

which all those in the memorial tombs will

hear his voice and come out, those who did

good things to a resurrection of life, and

those who practiced vile things to a

resurrection of judgment.

 

- Hear!

 

- Pay attention!

 

- God has given Jesus authority to do judging!

[JLG]

37) Looking for Jesus

 

John 5: I cannot do a single thing of my own

initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my

judgment is righteous because I seek, not my

own will, but the will of him who sent me.

 

- So powerful!

 

- And each relationship between God and men

such as Job, Daniel, Samuel and others is special!

 

- But it can’t be compared to the one between

God and Jesus!

 

- Jesus cannot do a single thing of his own

initiative: Do you understand what it means?

 

- He seeks, not his own will, but the will of

his Father: can you believe it?

 

[JLG]

38) Looking for Jesus

 

John 5: “If I alone bear witness about myself,

my witness is not true. There is another who

bears witness about me, and I know that the

witness he bears about me is true. You have

sent men to John, and he has borne witness to

the truth. However, I do not accept the witness

from man, but I say these things so that you

may be saved. That man was a burning and

shining lamp, and for a short time you were

willing to rejoice greatly in his light.

 

- John the Baptist bore witness about Jesus!

 

- Jesus calls him a burning and shining lamp!