creativemechanic Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, Jayne said: I see, you think it's only the women who are carnal and harm the innocent men. That's the problem. Missing the forest for the trees arent we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 It is very easy for a man who is not very focused on God for Satan to allow temptation to set in. Even a Pastor. I have heard of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, creativemechanic said: Missing the forest for the trees arent we? It can happen either way. It seems like you have a bitterness about something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,827 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,818 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: It is very easy for a man who is not very focused on God for Satan to allow temptation to set in. Even a Pastor. I have heard of that. Both men and women can be in the wrong and encourage things that should not be. I just don't believe in a hard and fast rule that says NO man can ever be around ANY woman, not of their family. It's just too harsh of a rule and makes ALL men and women look bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, Jayne said: Both men and women can be in the wrong and encourage things that should not be. I just don't believe in a hard and fast rule that says NO man can ever be around ANY woman, not of their family. It's just too harsh of a rule and makes ALL men and women look bad. It all depends on the man or woman. Their character, integrity,moral and values. If they are a true Christian. If they respect themselves or the other person. I have worked with some men who were downright scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleStudent100 Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 419 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 357 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Jayne said: But this "rule" is archaic. And sexist. And it doesn't address the heart of the problem. When men and women spend time together, romantic feelings can blossom into an emotional dependency that may undermine and even destroy a marriage, even when no sexual intimacy occurs. Married Christians do well to remember Jesus’ wise warning about adultery—it begins in the heart. (Matthew 5:28) Let us, then, safeguard the heart and avoid situations that could lead to such ruinous results. Some may argue that I am “master of how my heart feels,” but the Bible warns against placing excessive trust in our confident ways: “The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9,10). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space_Karen Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 206 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 99 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 Could the Billy Graham rule. Be applied to the recent Johnny Depp vs Amber Heart court case? Offhand I can think of several cases where male celebrities were accused by women, under circumstances where it could be proven that they had never spent time alone. Where the accusations might have enjoyed some success. It seems the Billy Graham rule no longer affords much protection, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,127 Content Per Day: 9.65 Reputation: 13,669 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 43 minutes ago, Space_Karen said: Could the Billy Graham rule. Be applied to the recent Johnny Depp vs Amber Heart court case? Offhand I can think of several cases where male celebrities were accused by women, under circumstances where it could be proven that they had never spent time alone. Where the accusations might have enjoyed some success. It seems the Billy Graham rule no longer affords much protection, unfortunately. We live in a society of victims for profit. The question isn't- did it happen? The lawyers are thinking," Can we make a convincing argument?". The 'victim' and lawyers are often looking at $$ as a main motive. It's a form of legal extortion. This makes it bad for the real victims with legitimate cases, because these days most assume it's just another gold digger. I seen the Johnny Depp case as more of a media distraction from things the media would not have us focus on. These kinds of trials are seldom covered in real time, even for movie stars. There must be 10 divorces in Hollywood every year. We see it all over the tabloids but seldom in the press to that extent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,827 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,818 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Space_Karen said: Could the Billy Graham rule. Be applied to the recent Johnny Depp vs Amber Heart court case? Offhand I can think of several cases where male celebrities were accused by women, under circumstances where it could be proven that they had never spent time alone. Where the accusations might have enjoyed some success. It seems the Billy Graham rule no longer affords much protection, unfortunately. No. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard were married when she accused him of domestic violence. They were divorced later and she still told it. We can't force married couples to have chaperones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted October 27, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 350 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,515 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,415 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2022 That is an excellent rule, more so currently, where reputations, honor, employment, lawsuits, and credibility can be instantly destroyed by one single false accusation. Not to mention the potential temptation of the lusts of the flesh. Semi-annually I was required to document and give each of my subordinates an evaluation in private. One of my employees was an attractive female; I always thought, what if? The Federal government is a stickler for treating everyone fairly and equally. I wanted to do this particular appraisal with one of my superiors present. Or with the door open, which was not allowed because that would be singling her out, and subject to discrimination. Had an accusation been made, who would have suffered the consequences? Reputation means nothing behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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