When they flee

[Shilohsfoal]

I guess I should have asked why do so many people ignore what Christ tells his elect in Luke 21:28.There sure are alot of people who ignore that little verse. 

 

https://biblehub.com/luke/21-28.htm

 

So many people believe Christ's elect are supposed to flee to the mountains after they had just spent the previous 42 months  being persecuted. Not even being  able to buy anything to eat, yet they believe his elect are supposed to flee to the mountains and hide in caves with the ungodly. 

It's just crazy how some people think. 

[Marilyn C]

11 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

This is the exact day. 

The same day the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem, 144000 of Israel are sealed. 

Jesus Is not going to make them stand there for days after he told them to stand up. 

https://biblehub.com/luke/21-28.htm

The word Day means a specific Day and a period of time DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT. 

[WilliamL]

21 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

PS, Jesus tells his students, when they see the occupants of Judea flee, they are only to stand up and raise their heads for their redemption is near.

He never tells his students to flee. 

Matt. 24:15 Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation... 15 then let those who are in Judea flee... 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.

"You/your/those in Judea" clearly include disciples of Christ. Therefore He does tell his people to flee.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

So many people believe Christ's elect are supposed to flee to the mountains after they had just spent the previous 42 months  being persecuted. Not even being  able to buy anything to eat, yet they believe his elect are supposed to flee to the mountains and hide in caves with the ungodly. 

That is because you are trying to mix scriptures that were not meant to be mixed.  The reference of those in Judea should flee in reference the the armies surrounding her is not the same reference that the people of the earth to flee God's wrath at the 6th seal when they see the sun, moon darkened and they see the signs of the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

 

[WilliamL]

22 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

If anyone thinks not, they need to explain why the occupants of Judea flee, then come back to Judea only to flee again. 

The occupants of Judea and Jerusalem have fled many times, and will flee at least twice more:

They fled during the reign of Antiochus Epiphanes, for example, during the Maccabean revolt.

The Christian Jews fled to Pella during the Jewish War of 66-73 AD, when Jerusalem became surrounded twice by Romans armies, who withdrew and later returned. This was what Jesus prophesied of in Luke 21:20-24.

As noted above, Christians in Jerusalem and Judea will flee again during the Great Tribulation.

And for the final time, Jews will flee during the Armageddon war at the time of Zech. 14: "you will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with You!"

[Shilohsfoal]

4 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

The word Day means a specific Day and a period of time DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT. 

 

How long do you believe Jesus wants his disciples to stand for without sitting back down? 

https://biblehub.com/luke/21-28.htm

Think he wants them to stand a week or two without sitting back down? 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

3 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Matt. 24:15 Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation... 15 then let those who are in Judea flee... 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.

"You/your/those in Judea" clearly include disciples of Christ. Therefore He does tell his people to flee.

https://biblehub.com/luke/21-28.htm

So you believe only the disciples who can run fast will be redeemed? 

What happens if the disciple is old as and slow, Jesus won't deliver him? 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

3 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

That is because you are trying to mix scriptures that were not meant to be mixed.  The reference of those in Judea should flee in reference the the armies surrounding her is not the same reference that the people of the earth to flee God's wrath at the 6th seal when they see the sun, moon darkened and they see the signs of the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

 

Jesus Is coming to jerusalem where those in Judea are fleeing to the mountains. 

Jesus isn't coming down to China. 

Zech 14 is the same location as Jesus talks about in the gospel when those in Judea flee. Scripture even says he will stand on the Mt of olives in Jerusalem. 

So why do you believe the occupants of Judea flee twice? 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

3 hours ago, WilliamL said:

The occupants of Judea and Jerusalem have fled many times, and will flee at least twice more:

They fled during the reign of Antiochus Epiphanes, for example, during the Maccabean revolt.

The Christian Jews fled to Pella during the Jewish War of 66-73 AD, when Jerusalem became surrounded twice by Romans armies, who withdrew and later returned. This was what Jesus prophesied of in Luke 21:20-24.

As noted above, Christians in Jerusalem and Judea will flee again during the Great Tribulation.

And for the final time, Jews will flee during the Armageddon war at the time of Zech. 14: "you will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with You!"

So you believe the 144000 were redeemed from among men in 73 ad? 

https://biblehub.com/luke/21-28.htm

Here Jesus talks about their redemption. 

[Marilyn C]

On 10/28/2022 at 10:44 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

According to Christ in the gospel, the occupants of Judea flee when they see the abomination that causes desolation. 

According to zech 14,the occupants of Judea flee, on the day of the Lord. 

 

If we compare scripture like this and many others, we find the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces of the north, on the day of the Lord. 

 

If anyone thinks not, they need to explain why the occupants of Judea flee, then come back to Judea only to flee again. 

In Matt. 24: 15, we see that those in Judea are to flee to the mountains when they see the A/D. (as you said) Jesus refers it back to the prophet Daniel showing that it will be in the middle of the trib. which is partway through the Day of the Lord, period of time. (Dan. 9: 27  & 11: 31) 

Then in Zech. 14: 5 we see the people fleeing from the world`s armies that go against Jerusalem. The Day of the Lord there is the specific day when the Lord comes to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious.