Would you burn your Bible?

[doulon]

The Word of God is Jesus Christ, who is God's expression, explanation, and definition (John 1:1; 14; 18).  Jesus' speaking is the speaking of God, His words are spirit and are life (John 6:63). 

In His incarnation Jesus's speaking was God's speaking in the Son and by the Spirit.  In His resurrection and ascension Jesus' speaking is by God as the life-giving Spirit (1 Cor. 15:45; 2 Cor. 3:6; Rom. 8:2, 11). 

The Scriptures are the testimony of Jesus Christ (John 3:31-34; 5:39), and they are the testimony of the ones who have seen the resurrected Christ (John 21:24; 1 John 1:2; Rev. 1:2; Acts 26:19). 

The Scriptures are many things, but essentially they amount to one essential and most profound revelation.  That is, they are God's speaking to man through the prophets and apostles, and more importantly in the Son, by the Son, and through the Son as the Spirit (Heb. 1:1-2; Matt. 17:5).  If you do not have this revelation of the Scriptures then you are lacking in the necessary vision that God has given the church through His Son.  Through the resurrected Christ the Scriptures have been opened up to us (Luke 24:27, 32, 45; Matt 7:7).

Were it so that God was primarily concerned with the accuracy and originality of His holy writ, then certainly He would have preserved the originally letters penned by the apostles.  Likewise He would have retained the original instructions given to to Moses and all the prophets.  However, this is not the case.  We do not have those letters (And the fact that it is most probable that these Scriptures were written on velum, which is animal skin, and therefore their preservation would have been a natural potential anyway).  What we do have is the most accurate representation of the written revelation of God's speaking to men.

To argue that a certain translation, using a certain type of language, written at a certain time, from a particular manuscript, translated by certain persons, and authorized by a certain person, is simply ridiculous.  Since there is no possible way to compare the original penned manuscripts by the original authors with the later manuscripts copied by others, and since God apparently did not deem it of great importance to preserve the original documents, you have absolutely no way of knowing for certain whether or not the manuscripts used to translate a certain version is actually the original "word" of God.  You simply have to take it on faith.

I would suggest to you, however, that this type of argument is not only ridiculous, petty, and pointless (It serves more to divide believers than united them, and therefore, it must not be truly of God) it more importantly falls woefully short of God's intended purpose of the Scriptures!

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Hi Ovedya! I appreciate what you stated but I do have a few comments and perhaps questions.

What you've written certainly sounds religious and no doubt impressed many on this board. I would've been among your biggest fans had I gotten the impression that you actually believed what you had written. I'm not sure if you just don't think about these things or you just wanted to sound very pious to the other members. Whatever the case, perhaps I can spur you on to further consideration and study of this most important issue.

I found it rather telling when you spent the first part of your post (seemingly) authoritatively quoting "scripture" to make your points. To the average reader it would seem that you actually believe these "scriptures" and hold them in high esteem. But I've been around these boards a few years now and I can tell when one is merely paying lipservice to the "holy writ". This I say because of your statement,

[Mongo]

Would I burn my Bible? Probably not. I do need to get a different version though. I have a NIV Life Application and though the studies are excellent, there are abherrant things within the NIV I have only recently been made aware of.

[Scarletprayers]

The Word of God is Jesus Christ, who is God's expression, explanation, and definition (John 1:1; 14; 18).

[doulon]

The Word of God is Jesus Christ, who is God's expression, explanation, and definition (John 1:1; 14; 18).

[RGR]

But I've been around these boards a few years now

I do not know him personally. I'm new to this board so I've only read one post by this member.

Care to explain?

[ruah brit]

All you have to do with any translation of the bible is give it to a non believer and tell them that this book will tell you were God is and how to find Him. If there is any soil that seeds can grow in there they will be planted. Before long they will be on this board debating which version they like the best or whether they should burn certain versions. The Spirit of man has not known enough to remove where Christ and God are and how they can be contacted from any version. So don't burn it, give it to a non believer, with the proper instructions and it will reap the Lord's purpose.

Isa 55

11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Denise

[doulon]

But I've been around these boards a few years now

I do not know him personally. I'm new to this board so I've only read one post by this member.

Care to explain?

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Sure, I'd be glad to.

"But I've been around these boards a few years now"

'These boards'=internet discussion/debate boards. I've been on many ezboards and such.

"I'm new to this board"

'This board'=this particular board. I'm new here. One look at how many posts I've made will prove this to be true. I just found this board in the last week or so.

I suppose I could've been a little more clear. I apologize for any confusion my words may have caused.

doulon

[RGR]

But I've been around these boards a few years now

I do not know him personally. I'm new to this board so I've only read one post by this member.

Care to explain?

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Sure, I'd be glad to.

"But I've been around these boards a few years now"

'These boards'=internet discussion/debate boards. I've been on many ezboards and such.

"I'm new to this board"

'This board'=this particular board. I'm new here. One look at how many posts I've made will prove this to be true. I just found this board in the last week or so.

I suppose I could've been a little more clear. I apologize for any confusion my words may have caused.

doulon

No problem! I sorta figured that, but we have had weirder things happen, lol!

[doulon]

No problem! I sorta figured that, but we have had weirder things happen, lol!

Believe me, brother, I know what you mean about 'weird'. I have a Bible website and I also moderate a Yahoo debate club----I've seen some really 'weird' ideas from "Christians".

Honestly, I find this type of board kind of hard to keep up with what is going on. The ezboards are fairly easy to follow discussions and the Yahoo clubs are the easiest. I like the fact that they allow you to receive the messages via email. This is very easy for me; I can receive them and respond quickly. But I digress!

Thanks for your understanding!

doulon

[Ovedya]

Hi Ovedya! I appreciate what you stated but I do have a few comments and perhaps questions.

What you've written certainly sounds religious and no doubt impressed many on this board. I would've been among your biggest fans had I gotten the impression that you actually believed what you had written. I'm not sure if you just don't think about these things or you just wanted to sound very pious to the other members. Whatever the case, perhaps I can spur you on to further consideration and study of this most important issue.

Hopefuly so, but so far you're not winning any points by implying that I am intentionally trying to sound poius in order to convince others, and that I'm not fully convinced myself. Were I not convinced at least a little, why would you think I would bother to post anything in the first place. That's silly. Maybe I've spent the last 2 1/2 years on this board just trying to convince others that I'm a really great guy (?).

I found it rather telling when you spent the first part of your post (seemingly) authoritatively quoting "scripture" to make your points. To the average reader it would seem that you actually believe these "scriptures" and hold them in high esteem. But I've been around these boards a few years now and I can tell when one is merely paying lipservice to the "holy writ". This I say because of your statement,