farouk Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,398 Content Per Day: 12.16 Reputation: 3,269 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Vine Abider said: In my book, that is date setting, which I shy away from. Because if we set a date for the pre-trib rapture (i.e., first fruits), then it's an easy count down to the Lord's return . . . and we know no one knows that time, except our Father. Best not to speculate but stick to Scripture, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vine Abider Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 201 Topics Per Day: 0.37 Content Count: 3,427 Content Per Day: 6.23 Reputation: 2,283 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, farouk said: Best not to speculate but stick to Scripture, right? Right. Some speculation is probably OK, but we should hold this speculation very loosely . . . not get all dogmatic about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vine Abider Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 201 Topics Per Day: 0.37 Content Count: 3,427 Content Per Day: 6.23 Reputation: 2,283 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Share Posted November 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: P.S. everyone is going to know the Second Comings timeline, that is a given, the Beast can only rule for exactly 1260 days. Yes, at that point it should be a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,398 Content Per Day: 12.16 Reputation: 3,269 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, Vine Abider said: Right. Some speculation is probably OK, but we should hold this speculation very loosely . . . not get all dogmatic about it. Well, exactly; look what happened to OT prophets who prophesied false things............. Not that the church is in the same position as Israel, but like you say, it's good to take care not to make what may be informed guesses into dogma......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,398 Content Per Day: 12.16 Reputation: 3,269 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2022 If ppl are going to say dogmatically 'Thus saith the Lord" and thus the Lord turns out not to have said................................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,945 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,868 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted November 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Vine Abider said: We'll have mansions in heaven? Do you have a problem with that? Joh 14:1-4 "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. (2) In My Father's house are many mansions (Gr. monē ); if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. (3) And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. (4) And where I go you know, and the way you know." Strong G3438 μονή monē mon-ay' From G3306; a staying, that is, residence (the act or the place): - abode, mansion. Total KJV occurrences: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2022 19 hours ago, Michael37 said: Such date setting is a mistake, but it's not the end of the world. And it is not a good idea to compromise our faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdHoc Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,035 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 1,452 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/29/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Michael37 said: Do you have a problem with that? Joh 14:1-4 "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. (2) In My Father's house are many mansions (Gr. monē ); if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. (3) And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. (4) And where I go you know, and the way you know." Strong G3438 μονή monē mon-ay' From G3306; a staying, that is, residence (the act or the place): - abode, mansion. Total KJV occurrences: 2 I have problems with that. The Book of John is about getting the life of God into man by God coming to live in man. Chapter 1 introduces "Bethel" (the House of God). Chapter 2 introduces the House of God "not made with hands" - Christ's Body. Chapter 3 sets forth how God's life gets into a man. Chapter 4 designates the spirit of man as the new PLACE where God dwells. The "House of God" is severally; 1. The Tabernacle of the Wilderness 2. Solomon's Temple 3. Zerubbabel's Temple 4. Christ's Body 5. The Church There is no thought of heaven being the House of God. He might inhabit heaven and name it as "His Throne", but scripture never designates heaven as "the House of God". The concept of "mansions" is not warranted. The correct translation is "abode" as in verse 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted November 29, 2022 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,945 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,868 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted November 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, AdHoc said: I have problems with that. The Book of John is about getting the life of God into man by God coming to live in man. Chapter 1 introduces "Bethel" (the House of God). Chapter 2 introduces the House of God "not made with hands" - Christ's Body. Chapter 3 sets forth how God's life gets into a man. Chapter 4 designates the spirit of man as the new PLACE where God dwells. The "House of God" is severally; 1. The Tabernacle of the Wilderness 2. Solomon's Temple 3. Zerubbabel's Temple 4. Christ's Body 5. The Church There is no thought of heaven being the House of God. He might inhabit heaven and name it as "His Throne", but scripture never designates heaven as "the House of God". The concept of "mansions" is not warranted. The correct translation is "abode" as in verse 23. A mansion is an abode, in this context a spiritual one prepared by our Lord Himself. If pedants don't like "mansion" for Greek monē then what will they say about "house" for Greek oikia. Joh 14:2 In my Father's house . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 29, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.88 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 I feel like Gilligan listening to the professor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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