Steward Popular Post George Posted December 13, 2022 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,466 Topics Per Day: 1.25 Content Count: 27,812 Content Per Day: 3.32 Reputation: 15,567 Days Won: 130 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2022 Shalom everyone, I've gone ahead and made some minor changes in the way moderation is operated with the passing of @Omegaman 3.0. In the past, we simply had a few moderators take final action while the moderation team was over-sighted by "Worthy Watchman" and "Worthy Chat Moderators" which totaled roughly 20 people that had access to any post that was reported and they could chime in on their thoughts. I've gone ahead and expanded the number of people acting as oversight to Worthy Ministers which gives the ministry nearly 50 people who act in some moderation role with the ability to review reported posts and to comment on issues at hand. This will also allow faster times to removed bad content from the forums. In the past, whenever a post was reported, and let's say it was vile in nature, those who had a view of the posts could simply report the posts as soon as 4 people report a post it's autohidden and then someone on the moderator team would make the final decision in the action to be taken. So with many more people watching what's happening behind the scenes, it will allow faster removal of poor content. Just posting this for transparency purposes and letting you know a little bit about what happens behind the scenes. Be blessed, George 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted December 13, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 280 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 13,162 Content Per Day: 9.57 Reputation: 13,746 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2022 I am still adjusting a little bit here to see how things work. I want to help the process, not hinder it. I think it's good to have additional people watching the forum. Omegaman spent a lot of time doing this. I know many of us have limited time, so spreading it around is helpful. Just a suggestion if one isn't already in place. Should an issue be run past a few mods before it takes effect? IOW get approval or a consensus between mods? I can see some possible issue with not having an even objective ageement before an action is taken. I believe this was a smaller circle before. I'm only referring to ongoing or questionable issues. Fires that are obviously causing all kinds of immediate problems need to be immediately quenched and there might not be time to consult. I'm referring to those things we see as extreme. Direct violation against the TOS. Even though most read it, I think over time memory if it can lapse. I see mods as ministers more than police looking to slap hands at every opportunity. We need both, but too much of one and people we would like to see stay here and absorb the word will simply leave in anger if we are too heavy handed. I guess it's difficult to feel we are defending while still being welcoming and willing to minster. You get all kinds on a message board and I would rather err in favor of the person who wants info, wants minstry and wants to change but comes off as obstinate and stubborn who desires to see the truth. They may come around. Those with frequent reports from members though really leave no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted December 13, 2022 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,466 Topics Per Day: 1.25 Content Count: 27,812 Content Per Day: 3.32 Reputation: 15,567 Days Won: 130 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1971 Author Steward Share Posted December 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, Starise said: Just a suggestion if one isn't already in place. Should an issue be run past a few mods before it takes effect? IOW get approval or a consensus between mods? I can see some possible issue with not having an even objective ageement before an action is taken. I believe this was a smaller circle before. It is in place exactly as you described. It's just more cooks in the kitchen now ... sometimes that's not the best way to get things done, we'll see. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,995 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,693 Content Per Day: 11.71 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 hours ago, George said: It is in place exactly as you described. It's just more cooks in the kitchen now ... sometimes that's not the best way to get things done, we'll see. I hope it works for you George. It is your board and your decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward Popular Post George Posted December 14, 2022 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,466 Topics Per Day: 1.25 Content Count: 27,812 Content Per Day: 3.32 Reputation: 15,567 Days Won: 130 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1971 Author Steward Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: It is your board and your decision. I really like to think of it as the Lord's board ... and I'm simply a caretaker. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,995 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,693 Content Per Day: 11.71 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2022 Just now, George said: I really like to think of it as the Lord's board ... and I'm simply a caretaker. You are humble. That is what the Lord wants you to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartwashed3 Posted December 14, 2022 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 800 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/02/1973 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Personally, I think that having that many (fifty) moderators means that the probability is higher that one or more of them will be unbelievers who will sit in judgment over sound doctrine and rejecting it because they don't like it; thus they may punish godly ministers more readily than those who are in violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted December 14, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,638 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,464 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, heartwashed3 said: Personally, I think that having that many (fifty) moderators means that the probability is higher that one or more of them will be unbelievers who will sit in judgment over sound doctrine and rejecting it because they don't like it; thus they may punish godly ministers more readily than those who are in violation. Shalom, heartwashed3. Surely there is a review of who would be accepted as moderators before given that ability to "sit in judgment." I'm sure that George has made arrangements for trustworthy moderators. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartwashed3 Posted December 14, 2022 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 800 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/02/1973 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Retrobyter said: Shalom, heartwashed3. Surely there is a review of who would be accepted as moderators before given that ability to "sit in judgment." I'm sure that George has made arrangements for trustworthy moderators. The more who are accepted, the greater the probability that someone might have slipped through the cracks as an unbeliever. It appears to me that my thread on Matthew 7:21-23 and Romans 4:15 has been deleted; unless it is taken off online for that it is currently in review. Do you have any news on this? Edited December 14, 2022 by heartwashed3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted December 14, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,638 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,464 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, heartwashed3 said: The more who are accepted, the greater the probability that someone might have slipped through the cracks as an unbeliever. It appears to me that my thread on Matthew 7:21-23 and Romans 4:15 has been deleted; unless it is taken off online for that it is currently in review. Do you have any news on this? Shalom, Peace, to you my brother. Probability aside, when God is involved, the results are absolute! I have no personal involvement on this matter, as I am not a moderator. As I understand it, there is a mechanism that automatically puts a post in hold if it has received 4 or more reports. If there's no problem found with the post, it may be restored, or the moderators will inform you of some other action taken. To find out more, you'll have to ask a mod. God bless you in any case. I should add that they may also choose to modify the post, if the offense was something minor, possibly with a warning following the post. Edited December 14, 2022 by Retrobyter to add another possibility 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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