1to3 Posted January 4, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,223 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,075 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Online Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, com7fy8 said: For me personally, in testing the Masons, it seems they do not hold to Jesus being the Lord of all. Plus, they accept groups who are not Christian, and their idea of morality includes certain un-Biblical things being ok. It seems quite clear that they do not consider Jesus to be our one and only way to God. But I can see there is some amount of incorrect stuff being put out about them. Or else, after some people join, very quickly they will find out they have been lied to. Unfortunately because Freemasons consider themselves a secret society with secret privileged knowledge, they continue to work in secret, and go under many different "good will cloaks of disguise". So for many its not clear what the Freemasons are all about. Edited January 5, 2023 by 1to3 spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plavious Posted January 4, 2023 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 7 Topic Count: 526 Topics Per Day: 0.25 Content Count: 1,304 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 1,353 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1989 Share Posted January 4, 2023 23 hours ago, 1to3 said: Would you join and become a member of a church where you knew your pastor was a Freemason? The pastor was a Freemason. 2 corinthians 5:17. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here. if the pastor has repented as per the tense used in the question(was) then Roman 8:1, There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Then I will be member of his church if he has genuinely repeated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted January 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,223 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,075 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Online Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) I was using the adverb -where- in a conditional sense.Perhaps I should have used the conjunction if instead of the adverb where in my phrase. Would you join and become a member of a church if you knew your pastor was a Freemason? However you bring up the possibility of being forgiven, and yes Christ Jesus can forgive anyone who repents=turns away from sin while alive,except for the unforgivable sin which is blasphemy of The Holy Spirit. Matthew 12:30-32: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Edited January 5, 2023 by 1to3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted January 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,223 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,075 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Online Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 hours ago, plavious said: The pastor was a Freemason. 2 corinthians 5:17. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here. if the pastor has repented as per the tense used in the question(was) then Roman 8:1, There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Then I will be member of his church if he has genuinely repeated. I guess you must have meant repented instead of repeated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plavious Posted January 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 7 Topic Count: 526 Topics Per Day: 0.25 Content Count: 1,304 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 1,353 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1989 Share Posted January 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, 1to3 said: I guess you must have meant repented instead of repeated? Yes thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 5, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,573 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,054 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Would I attend such a place? No, but then I have not been led to any church for or because of the pastor of one anyway. I have been led each time for other reasons, by the direction of God, through the Holy Spirit's reveal. As to Free Masonry being compatible with Christianity or with churches, there were very few pastors, no priests, and no rabbis or other leaders, that would partake alongside with them at a funeral rite. They simply could not lend any credibility to what they teach and especially what they share at a funeral servce rite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted January 5, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,657 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 5, 2023 My pastor of a Disciples of Christ (Christian) Church was a Freemason. I wanted to be baptized so my mom talked me into having that done in a Christian Church because they immerse. However that meant that I joined this particular church. Later I learned that the pastor was a Mason and did not believe in the Trinity because that word is not in the Bible. However, he didn't teach the concept of the Trinity either. I did leave that church as soon as I left home. I possess one of the Mason's secret books and have read others that were very high level. They were extremely mystical, stating that they shouldn't reveal everything to new Masons but only to higher degrees in the order. It also stated that no one can understand the Bible. In spite of this people must read the Bible as part of the requirement for induction into the order. The Holy Spirit moves in strange ways because He used this to plant seeds of saving faith in my Dad. Funerals of Masons reveal that they teach salvation by works and by achieving higher degrees in the order. My info comes from Scottish Rite and Shriners. They allow people of all religions to join except for Mormons with which they share many similarities. So no, I would not join a church that accepted pastors to the pulpit that were members of Masonic orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted January 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,223 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,075 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Online Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 Joseph Smith founder of Mormonism was a Freemason occultist. William Schnoebelen a former Catholic priest, than satanist, freemason and Mormon occultist, became born again saved in Christ Jesus on June 22, 1984.spending the rest of his life exposing the evils in the RCC, freemasonry and Mormonism. https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/William_Schnoebelen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted January 6, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,223 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,075 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Online Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 Here is the title of a short video that shows and explains how worldwide deep the involvement of freemasonry goes. At 9:22 minutes into the video you will see a photo with Ted Turner ,Bill Gates, Anthnony Fauci, Goerge Soros,David Rockefellor,Brooke Astor, all people who promote and fund the eugenics.. To find the video you can look up for yourselves on you tube the following title: Barbara Walters by the posters name: 7grainsof salt3 tititla short vifro showing the different signs the masson use and those who join align withthem and wear their badges, medals f honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Posted January 6, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 61 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/27/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 3:09 PM, 1to3 said: Would you join and become a member of a church where you knew your pastor was a Freemason? nope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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