God's Divine Protection Of The Church During The Tribulation

[George]

So what do you do with the SURVIVORS left of the nations?  Were they saved?  Or are they NOT saved?   Are the Egyptians ... still Egyptians in the Kingdom of heaven?

Perhaps you should simply look at this as a temporal Kingdom that is set up for 1000 years to fulfill ALL the promises in the Bible.

You still have the restoration Egypt, the promise to Ishmael, are some that DEFINITELY have not BEEN fulfilled -- that must be fulfilled!

Don't forget the promise to us ... 

Rev 5:10  and you have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth.”

Is the word -- earth written by John ... really heaven in your view?  Or perhaps it is what it is. 

 

[Michael37]

3 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

And?

And then the Word of God from the mouth of Christ kills the armies of the beast and birds devour their flesh.

Next thing Satan is bound and cast into the abyss which is sealed, and for 1000 years he is prevented from deceiving the nations, his mission to corrupt, deceive, and exploit thwarted for a time.

[Keturah 123]

4 hours ago, George said:

Is Satan bound?  If not, when is this passage being fulfilled?

Rev 20:3  and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. 

 

You go right ahead. I have not been asleep since Tuesday a.m.

It won't take much to " knock me outta the ring"! !

[Keturah 123]

4 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Huh,say what & btw..WHERE?

[AdHoc]

18 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

It appears you are having a hard time following your own words

No doubt..

Go well.

[abcdef]

5 hours ago, George said:

Is Satan bound?  If not, when is this passage being fulfilled?

Rev 20:3  and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. 

George,

A partial parallel passage to Rev 20 is Rev 12.

Satan is thrown down from heaven on the day of Pentecost after Jesus ascends to the throne and there is the war in heaven. Rev 12:7-10, Rev 20:1-3.

Rev 12:10 says that Satan was cast down when "salvation" came and the "kingdom" came, Pentecost in 33 AD.

Satan was bound by the "chain" of Rev 20:2 in that he could not destroy the children of Israel, from Rome, because Israel was scattered among the gentile nations. So he sent out a flood of people after Israel, Rev 12:15.

The symbolic binding chain of 1000 yrs is the time from 70 AD until 1929 when the dragon Rev 20:2, Rev 12:3, 9, 13, 17, came out of the abyss to deceive the nations.

The deception of the dragon in Rev 20:3, is not that he is cannot cause people to sin. It is shown in Rev 20:8 that the deception, that the dragon is not able to do, is to deceive the nations into attacking and destroying the people of Israel. 

First, know that the dragon of Rev 12 is Rome. Then understand that the dragon of Rev 20:2 is also Rome.

Rome could not destroy the people of Israel until Jerusalem was restored in 1967.

The dragon beast nation, Rev 20:2, (The iron nation of Dan 2, and the 4th beast nation of Dan 7) after rising out of the abyss, does not have the military power to destroy Israel, so he must deceive the kings of the east and the gentile allies into doing it for him, because he is just an image of his former self which was the Roman Empire.

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This Satanic act of Rome deceiving the gentile nations has already happened.

The Vatican, the dragon beast who hates Israel, recognized the State of Palestine in 2013.

The Vatican/Iran treaty was signed in 2015. The treaty allows the RCC to function in Palestine after Israel is defeated and Jerusalem falls.

The Vatican claims to be God's Israel, exclusively, exclusively, exclusively.

They cannot make that claim and allow the people of Israel to exist as a nation and control Jerusalem.

History shows conclusively that the Rome Empire and the Vatican have been trying to destroy the people of Israel for 2000 years, continually.

Both as the iron beast nation and the image beast nation, until this very day.

[truth7t7]

16 hours ago, George said:

So what do you do with the SURVIVORS left of the nations?  Were they saved?  Or are they NOT saved?   Are the Egyptians ... still Egyptians in the Kingdom of heaven?

Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV

3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Edited February 2, 2023 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

15 hours ago, Keturah 123 said:

Huh,say what & btw..WHERE?

Satan is "Specifically" bound from "Deceiving The Nation's to Battle", he's not bound from deception and evil in the world presently, as was clearly shown

Feel free to make a claim in opposition, with provided scripture to support your rebuttal

Jesus Is The Lord

Edited February 2, 2023 by truth7t7

[AdHoc]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV

3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

The reader will at once notice two things.

1. Zechariah 14:16 concerns the Nations, and Isaiah 4 "the daughters of Zion"

2. You quote Zacheriah 14:16 but discuss 14:12.

One pertains to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the other to foreigners who survive the slaughter.

Then, jumping to Revelation 21 you emphasize "the nations of them which are saved" but make no comment. But a comment was desperately needed for ...

1. it does not address those who survive Armageddon, but those who might or might be allowed into New Jerusalem - not Jerusalem.

2. They are THE NATIONS. In New Jerusalem the Church is the city wall built on Apostles. The gates of the city are 12 Tribes of Israel. And it is not; "the SAVED of the NATIONS", but, "The NATIONS of them which are saved". Are not the "saved" no longer of the Nations? (There is no Jew nor Greek???)

3. And then, you emphasize the Book of LIFE. In Revelation 21 it pertains to NATIONS, but in Isaiah 4 it pertains to those who live in Jerusalem. Besides the anomaly, does not the Book of Life pertain to Christians?

I may be wrong, but it looks like you have mixed two totally different events.

[truth7t7]

4 hours ago, AdHoc said:

3. And then, you emphasize the Book of LIFE. In Revelation 21 it pertains to NATIONS, but in Isaiah 4 it pertains to those who live in Jerusalem. Besides the anomaly, does not the Book of Life pertain to Christians?

Old Testament Prophet Daniel below describes those written in the book as "Thy People"

Would you claim that those believers who died in faith, before the cross of Calvary aren't "Thy People"?

2 Timothy 2:15KJV

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Daniel 12:1KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Edited February 2, 2023 by truth7t7